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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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> Should almost be a matter of pride to get it for less than $20. When you're a high schooler, yes, even Steve Jobs did it. But when your monthly salary is easily in the thousands, it's not a matter of pride to get it for <$20, it's a matter of stupidity.

I agree, it's stupid to pay $20 for something you can get for 2 cents

$20/mo, for the people in this situation, is not an amount of money worth thinking about.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?

Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.

Actually, Google search has an ARPU of ~$256 per year [1] -- i.e. they're monetizing your eyeballs for about $20 a month. I applaud OpenAI: Please keep the service paid & ad-free. Thanks!

[1] https://mondaynote.com/the-arpus-of-the-big-four-dwarf-every...

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

I don't really see the issue. You are using a service called GhostWrite which uses ChatGPT under the hood. OpenAI/ChatGPT would be considered a sub-processor of GhostWrite. What am I missing?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

Isn't this what the Azure OpenAI service is for? Sure it's technically "Microsoft", but at some point you have to trust someone if you want to build on the modern web.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

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"included" is a loaded word here. Nobody is getting your content, unaltered, as ChatGPT responses, and if they are it's a bug that'll get fixed.

Besides, the law is far from resolved on this issue, there are a number of pending cases that would need to be resolved before you could so unambiguously claim such as you are.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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It's almost useless for writing fiction. The AI clearly has some idea of how, but any time anything even slightly less than perfectly-G-rated happens in the story, it hits the filters. Actually, it's even more restrictive than that implies. You can't so much as have two siblings quarrel without the AI insisting on turning it into a moral. Right then and there, immediately, never mind the concept of "Stories longer th…

Use the playground. Why would you use the chat interface for text generation? It is for questions and answers. Use the model directly on the playground for your purpose, and you won't hit such filters .

ChatGPT has a context of 4096 tokens (I believe), the playground last I checked maxes out at 2048. That's a huge difference, especially for stories.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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> And it's cheaper than $20/month, Since the $20/month is for priority access to new features and priority access including during high-load times, not API access (a separatr offering not yet available), I don't understand the cost comparison. What you are proposing does not substitute for any part of the $20/month offering over the basic free product.

He's a programmer. They re cheaper than scrooge. They'll write a tool themselves in 6 months rather than spend 10 dollars. Idk why but programmers are the cheapest people on earth in regards to programming tools. I bought Intellij idea for $400 like 12 years ago and got made fun of at work even though it made me substantially faster than eclipse.

$10 is much different than $20/month.

I'm intrigued by ChatGPT as a work assistance tool. I have found it useful a number of times. But there's no way it's adding a contours $20/month of value to my day when I compare it to other things on which I spend my money. I'd rather just not have it than spend that much.

$20 one time fee? Maybe. $20/mo? Not at all.

This is no different than streaming media services. There are streaming apps where I'd like to see their content, but not the rate they charge I don't find worth the value. So I don't subscribe.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

>> you end up earning more, or working way less. Or you're just treading water. Not everyone gains some super power productivity or an excess of free time when utilizing tools... Some people just being able to actually scrape by BECAUSE of said tools.

Indeed. People in developing countries might learn what the public school system should have taught them, with a free private tutor that is ChatGPT or similar.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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> why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Objectively, a few reasons: - You can't afford it. - Paying for it doesn't let you "own" anything - It's not reliable - It's legal compatibility is not fully decided yet - It can preclude opportunities for learning and even teach you entirely false things under the guise they are true The list probably goes on, but I don't think we shou…

> If we applied that logic to everything in our lives, we'd all use computers from Skymall and eat food we see on QVC Pretty sure GP didn't say "completely give in to all impulse purchases and cease to use your brain about the worth of things." I agree with GP. I bought my own monitor. It's great. It significantly improves my workday, and I get to take it with me if I quit. It generally gets two reactions: first, "ho…

Also, a better monitor can improve my job performance which can lead to better reviews! Working effectively is important to your own bottom line.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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"included" is a loaded word here. Nobody is getting your content, unaltered, as ChatGPT responses, and if they are it's a bug that'll get fixed. Besides, the law is far from resolved on this issue, there are a number of pending cases that would need to be resolved before you could so unambiguously claim such as you are.

ChatGPT Stole Your Work. https://www.wired.com/story/chatgpt-generative-artificial-in...
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