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Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Another chapter in the corporate hellscape of the US. Now your job search includes research on corporate factions and their relations, any outting you attend is preceded by research of corporate ownership and faction relations or security measures in place in order to know if you can attend or attempt to bypass said measures.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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That is not, in fact, how boarding passes at airports work. Identity checking is done by TSA, in a step that is very often the bottleneck and consumes enormous amounts of manpower and physical space.

That’s exactly how they work when you actually board the plane.

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Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Then one day you fart on an airplane and are no longer able to fly due to being a "troublemaker" that people wouldn't want to sit next to. A community of people aren't built around absolutism. They are built around give and take. You can't have your best day, every day.

I didn't say anything about farting. I don't want to board an airplane with someone who has a history of assaulting people. If airlines could build an accurate list, I would have no problem with them sharing the list and effectively banning those people from flying. The "accurate" part I admit is the hard part to get right. As another replier suggested, maybe base it on public arrest records or something. But assumin…

And I'd rather live in a society where the punishment for assault is meted out by a court of law, via a trial if necessary or appropriate, and not via some privatized blacklist with no means of due process.

> I don't want to board an airplane with someone who has a history of assaulting people.

> Do you want a loose cannon who has assaulted people in the past on a tin can with you at 50,000 feet?

If this someone paid whatever price a competent court of law imposed on them, then I have no problem boarding a plane with them. People make mistakes, even grievous ones, and even ones that you or I wouldn't make on our worst of days. The law encodes the penalties for those. Beyond that, what you're advocating for is extrajudicial punishment.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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The required brand loyalty from Miller crazy - friends who have worked for them will pour non-miller beverages into glassware so that they can't be photographed holding a competitor's product. This is not in public mind you, but at someone else's apartment and not on company time. Not sure if Budweiser / AB does the same thing back but its a really backwards way to run a company culture.

Also something similar. A motorcycle (scooter) company in Taiwan only allows their own brand motorcycle into the company parking lot. So if you commute with a non-company scooter, good luck finding parking.

I'd be totally fine with this if they paid for the scooter.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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I doubt this question can be answered in a short comment. The differences stem from thousands of years of diverging cultural influences, history and geography. As for Russia, this video gives a good introduction to the origins of Russian Authoritarianism (with comparisons to power structures in China and Europe over history), that go all the way back to the 5th century A.D. with the Huns and the unique geography/clim…

So, how does the U.S.A fare in this kind of thinking? There isn't such a vast history to pull from there, how can you justify an analogous nationalistic identity/moral character for it without such a big story? Also, what is the argument for being able to collapse culture and state together, such that the state can/will manifest this trans-historic character of a group of people? Or rather, if we grant that relation…

| There isn't such a vast history to pull from there, how can you justify an analogous nationalistic identity/moral character for it without such a big story?

Well, exactly - that explains a lot of the current political/cultural fragmentation of the U.S. population. Although you can definitely argue that though it is a "short" story in comparison, the founding of the U.S. as a revolution to gain independence from the British Crown to found a state by the people, for the people, with its own constitution and Bill of Rights is a "big" story nonetheless.

As to your other questions - good questions - one could write a whole book (or several) addressing them.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Another chapter in the corporate hellscape of the US. Now your job search includes research on corporate factions and their relations, any outting you attend is preceded by research of corporate ownership and faction relations or security measures in place in order to know if you can attend or attempt to bypass said measures.

> corporate hellscape of the US

For multi-national corporations, global clique analysis of investors, supply chains, competitors and regulators may be required.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Yea, I am with you on this one. I started out reading the article wondering 'OMG, what is it that this mom could've possible done that she's banned?' and then when it says "lawyer at adversarial law firm" I immediately switched to "oh yea, makes total sense". None of the counterarguments here stand up to scrutiny. "Isn't involved in litigation" and "not a Security threat" - she is totally a security threat: today she…

What she's alleging seems to be: the MSG conglomerate is using their large footprint to punish law firm employees unrelated to their dispute using venues also unrelated to their dispute. Doing it out of spite sounds possibly legal, if petty. But the other possible intention would be to try to dissuade law firms from taking a case against any MSG property, to try to deny legal representation to the plaintiff. Not a la…

Calling not being able to be a consumer of the company their firm is suing punishment seems to be a bit of a stretch. And it's only during the duration of the lawsuit.

And again, why are the lawyers so surprised when they knew ahead of time? If they had asked, it could have even been pre-approved, and thus a non-story. If anything, I'd almost consider this to have been an intentional act by the law firm because they knew ahead of time and took their Girl Scout troop anyway, knowing it could look bad for MSG.

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Then we shall improve the voting populace by first and foremost removing you from it. Progress!

Threats do not tend towards a Functional Society

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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I don't know of any laws against this at all, at least in the United States.

The parent may be referring to employment laws; google claims 29 states have made blacklisting illegal in an employment context.

Gonna be fun at the e-gate when I’m both banned and employed by a store/bar/restaurant/mall simultaneously

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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How did they identify her? Where is MSG getting the data for their facial recognition? This part is confusing to me (I assume some third party vendor, but that's besides the point). Do they have you upload a photo of yourself? Do they have access to driver license photos? If the latter, that's a serious issue that I think we should be talking about: private companies having access to government biometric data. It's a…

The law firm in question has headshots of their attorneys: https://www.dsslaw.com/our-firm/attorneys/kelly-analiese-con... It wouldn't take much to feed the 7 pictures into a system.

I get that (others mentioned this already) but I still feel this is creepy. It's definitely not the expectation people have when they show their faces on their websites. I think this is just going to encourage people to not show their face as much because this is seriously not okay.
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