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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Nah, there’s nowhere else for cable news to pull hot takes from social media.

Facebook? The world wide web? Another website we haven’t seen yet? I remember when the only social network was MySpace and then it wasn’t.

You're forgetting 6-apart.

And Friendster.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Musk has extraordinary capability of extracting every bit of potential a person can deliver. Either you work crazy at your 200% or you are worthless and the company is not for you. Twitter will see lots of layoffs, massive restructuring - some unknown people being promoted for top roles, but end result will be better financial. I am not sure Twitter will remain the same as it is. Lots of people think Elon is not good…

>Musk has extraordinary capability of extracting every bit of potential a person can deliver. Either you work crazy at your 200% or you are worthless and the company is not for you. You are simply paraphrasing exploitation. >but if you see most of his businesses, his expertise is dealing with governments, contracts and policies makers Looks more like brute force and public shaming to me.

Anyone capable of doing software engineering for TSLA isn’t being exploited. They can take home an upper class income working for their choice of the cream of the crop of tech companies. It’s like an outside observer complaining that MIT exploits students because it’s expensive and the students have to do hard work. Well, of course. That’s what you agree to when you go there.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Because they don't have a union so they were excluded from all the big-boy negotiations at the sale, and they've no way to resist the demands of their bosses. They can put up, or shut up. Or just complain pathetically.

Or they can join a competing social network.

Well it's not like meta is having a great time right now either.

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What’s more funny is how people commonly believe like this their code is so special or different than everyone else’s. Reverse engineering a large code base is not anywhere as hard as most software engineers somehow believe. I was tasked with analyzing a large code base from a company that my employer had been an investor in and as part of their investment had been given IP rights, the company employees were floored…

> Trust me if one is experienced enough they can understand your code perfectly fine, it’s definitely not as special as you think it is. What if a large portion of the codebase is, for example, shader code? I chose this example because coding for the GPU isn't the same as coding for the CPU. Do you think that's a scenario in which you'd require more study, or are you confident your experience would spill over into th…

Tesla uses lots of GPUs for training autopilot, I would be surprised if they wouldn’t have people writing optimized shaders for some of the tasks.

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Why would anyone take him seriously when he is making a massive embarrassment of himself on his first day on the job (after doing the same for months leading up to the takeover?) Musk didn't know the bio of the CEO of the company he was buying (who was also former CTO, engineer, Stanford PhD (thesis topic: making decisions under uncertainty), IPhO gold medalist, top tier Indian tech student) and called him a non-tech…

Why would anyone take him seriously? Well, maybe because he’s the richest man in the world? Or maybe because he’s the CEO of several of the most valuable public or private companies in the world? Maybe because he practically single handedly willed the electric car industry into existence? Or maybe because he’s revolutionized the rocket industry? Or…or…or… Elon hasn’t whiffed on any business venture in decades. Nothin…

> This guy, one of the most successful people in all of human history, is apparently an idiot and no one should take him seriously

You say “successful” but I assume you mean wealthy.

There are other forms of success that Musk falls woefully short of, such as “not being an asshole”…

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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A great attempt to dodge vesting schedules and escape doling out severance. Even if they convince many engineers to quit willingly, one presumes that the next step is rounds of layoffs with cause.

California is at-will, but notoriously anal regarding mass-layoffs. My serious question is, regardless of with or without cause, surely some employment attorneys are licking their lips at the stack of prospective cases they're about to have, right?

If I was a Twitter engineer, I'd be trying to figure out how to maximize my severance package right about now.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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It would be reasonable for Twitter to pay Tesla for the audit work, because otherwise it would be a misuse of Tesla resources to only benefit the Tesla CEO.

Even if TWTR paid TSLA, this is still an obvious conflict of interest.

How? Why wouldn't you pool your resources? What interest is in conflict?

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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If someone completely new to my codebase came along and tried to evaluate my code I'd laugh. You can't jump in and "evaluate" without knowing context and being familiar with the features.

Of course I first read the documentation to understand a code base, but then just usually jump in to the part that I’m interested in. If it’s not spaghetti code base, it’s not that hard to do that.

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If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

Twitter isn’t some engineering marvel. Anyone could go build a scalable Twitter clone. There are a handful of competitors on the market and a few open source projects. All things considered, it’s easy. Making a viable business out of it is hard.

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

The text messages that were published as part of the suit to close the acquisition showed Musk discussing "return to office" as a way to naturally trim some of the workforce by having the dissatisfied remote workers quit on their own.

My take on the paper printing is that it is a similar strategy to get people to quit by themselves, because they think it's stupid.

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