Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whataboutism is the greater crime.
A continued insistence on complaining about the nearest symptom rather than addressing any of the deeper causes begins to look a lot like complicity.
Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#592But things have clearly gone off track. As a political conservative, I tend to think about political excess (on the left side). Others may see it differently, I wouldn't blame them if they did. No matter what, I hope SF pulls things together and quickly. I also hope the solutions are transferable, because it seems some other cities have the same kind of sickness.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#593Got a $1500 bike stolen from the inside of my locked apartment in Potrero Hill back in 2015 or 16. Was very bitter about that -- it was one of the few things I brought with me to SF. Police ignored it. For weeks after I was walking through all the homeless chop shops looking for it. About a month after the theft, I received a call from someone who bought a frame (just the frame) with my serial number at a San Jose fl…
The rampant organized bike theft is particularly obnoxious not only is the theft disproportionately impactful relative to the value since you needed the bike for transportation-- but it's particularly easy to do something about it because its so organized and large scale: Put out bait bikes with trackers and/or surveillance. (and plus, when you bust a big operation and now have a ton of bikes whos owners can't be loc…
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#594Earlier quoted context omitted.
"But cops also do not get to decide what they investigate based on their own beliefs and biases." Actually they do. It's called law enforcement discretion. They could watch you get murdered and have no legal responsibility to help you (they would likely be fired, but that's about it).
Nah. If you get to pick and choose you are no longer law enforcement. I get prioritization and I get that there are nuances and circumstances but if I break the law and nothing happens and another person breaks the law and they get in trouble, in the same setting, at the same time it's bullshit. Also, cops are not paid to make their own rules or decide which laws are good or bad. We have this entire branch that is re…
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you prove this is taking place? If not then I don't see how it invalidates the data. It could just as well be that people are more willing to report crime now. The only evidence available to us implies that crime is going down. Ideology is the only reason you might believe otherwise without evidence.
I see smoke, but the fire department has not confirmed that there’s a fire. Therefore, there’s no fire, and ideology is the only reason I might believe? Note that I didn’t say “without evidence” at the end - smoke is evidence, as is an article that you’re commenting on talking about thefts that are common enough to make half of a city’s citizens victims in a five year period. And, you cite a source that notes that pe…
In this example you cold point to the smoke as first-hand evidence. Can you point to equivalent evidence that people are underreporting crimes?
I'm only asking to see evidence showing underreporting, a claim you made. No ideology here.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#596What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying
Wikipedia has the FBI's crime statistics from 2019, broken out into categories including "larceny - theft": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b... Their highest rate is Spokane, WA at 5,408/100k, which would mean at most 5.4% of people report a theft. SF is a close second at about 5%. Curious, let's look at the poll sourced by the article. It was a questionnaire of about 1500 people conducted…