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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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87% of american teens imessage/sms/texting is king in the US

How sad. Its gonna come here too. And probably is here already but I am an out of touch old man. We love to ape america and all the kids wanna be in eupohria on hbo.

I don't it. It's been this way for a long time and if anything more people are moving discord or whatever.

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The social rejection is a result of teens being teens, as pointed out. Adults would use another more inclusive tool, like whatsapp, email, discord, rss, etc.

I and most adults I know have never used those apps. We’re also on our ~15th iphone

15th iPhone?

I'm 50 and I'm still on my 1st Android phone (which is a piece of crap, but I have an environmental responsibility to use it as long as possible and it still does perfectly good phone things like SMS and voice and DCSS). I've owned maybe four mobile phones in my whole life.

I guess you're creating employment. See: https://www.who.int/teams/environment-climate-change-and-hea...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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(iPhone user here) It does seem to me that Apple isn't playing fair and this is no longer the technical issue it once was. Apple has so far refused to adopt RCS (the successor to SMS and MMS) which is now an industry standard for text messaging. Because of that, aside from the green bubble, the text messaging experience with non-iPhone users is subpar. Images and videos are compressed and things like tapback and grou…

RCS is less of an industry standard than iMessage. Apple built something better. So did Google. Then Google killed theirs. Then they did the same thing three more times. It's no wonder nobody wants to use Google messaging, and that Google resorts to smear campaigns. People would rather use WhatsApp spyware from FB/Meta or totally unencrypted Discord/Slack than bother with another Google IM product (which, let's be cl…

> Apple built something better.

I want to against this. Even if the app is well made, messaging platform only for specific company's devices is completely broken idea. Tragedy is that US people adopted completely broken platform.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I can run actual Firefox with ublock origin. or Bromite. or Brave. or anything really.

Wait, they can't run uBlock Origin on iOS? But the web without it is just unusable.

Firefox with the built-in "Enhanced Tracking Protection" gets you about 70-80% of the blocking that a dedicated adblock system can, depending on the site, and at least saves you from some of the worst behaviors. Between that and network-level ad blocking (Eero+), I really only see first-party ads like FB/IG. When I'm not at home, the chances are pretty low that I'm just casually browsing the web rather than using a dedicated app (where I probably bought or subscribed to avoid ads).

Edit: and if you're willing to use Safari on iOS, there are dozens of Safari plugins on the app store that provide good-enough adblocking.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

Anecdotally, my twins (both 17) have been asking for Android phones since they got their first phone at 14. I thought they’d be excited to get iPhones because I read reports and stories like this, but it doesn’t appear to be universal.

perhaps it's because the adults they look up to aren't iPhone users?

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> ...Pixel 3. ... The camera opens when I click the camera button. I still have a Pixel 5 and one of my favorite features is double pressing the power button to activate the camera. It works so well that my camera is ready to go before I have even focused on the subject. I don’t know if this feature is available on an iPhone.

You can set iOS so that a double or triple tap on the rear of the phone case can trigger almost whatever you want including opening the camera.

Technically it's possible but not reliable due to many false positive/negatives in my experience on my 13 mini. I wanted to use it for quick flashlight, but double had false positive and triple had false negative.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Why is the answer not to force interoperability? This is exactly what we should be doing because it's generally good for the communications ecosystem and the overall marketplace. It's not an answer to the problem of teenagers having to learn decency, but I'm failing to see a downside to taking Apple to task on this.

> Why is the answer not to force interoperability? Do you want the U.S. government to just strong-arm a private company into adopting a not-very-popular plaintext messaging standard, or do you want them to force the licensing of Google's proprietary extensions that support encryption for 1-to-1 messages as well? (Even with proprietary extensions, group messages are always plaintext.)

The US government can mandate some amount of compatibility just as the EU recently mandated USB-C

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What are you talking about? No you can't. If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. The Samsung Galaxy A03s is Samsung's cheapest, it's considered "ultra-budget", and it costs $160. The Moto G Pure, Motorola's cheapest, is also $160. (Edit in response to comments: yes if you buy a lo…

> If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. Or even close to it. Hardly anyone buys a phone unlocked in the US. Most buy carrier locked devices and at the low end, it's mostly prepaid. I just bought a Samsung A03 from target that was for prepaid carrier Total Wireless for $10. I didn…

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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You're assuming the relationship is nasty. It isn't a given that people who raise kids differently than you do will fill them with hatred and bitterness.

"monitoring the little bastard doesn't know about via my WiFi router" proves for me but of course that will be a matter of opinion

That language is not offensive in many social groups, some families included. You're reading way too much into a random drive by internet comment

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> ...Pixel 3. ... The camera opens when I click the camera button. I still have a Pixel 5 and one of my favorite features is double pressing the power button to activate the camera. It works so well that my camera is ready to go before I have even focused on the subject. I don’t know if this feature is available on an iPhone.

It's not available. On the iPhone you need to take it out of your pocket, wake up the screen by tapping it once, or lifting it to some angle that the screen turns on. Then you need to long press the on screen camera button. If you enabled the double tap, you still need to take it out of your pocket and wake up the screen before you can double tap. On Android you could have the camera ready before the phone is even ou…

Also, from an awakened lock screen, as an alternate to the long press of the camera button, you can just swipe left on the screen, revealing the ready camera app, which saves a second or two.
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