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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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> Getting money for running websites is also non-mandatory? Your business problems aren't our concern. If you're financing your business by stealing personal information from users and selling it to data brokers, then you're a crook. Crooks tend to have high hosting expenses.

"Our" as in Robespierre's Committee of Public Safety concern? What do you know about hosting expenses? I have been running a website that you know and use with 100m users since 2004!

"Our" as in all the people who don't want to be tracked.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I will never stop to talk about PiHole and how much changed my home browsing experience: https://pi-hole.net/ I suggest everybody to give it a spin

We need a $20 appliance that is plug and play. Most users aren't installing Docker containers.

Most PiHole users aren't, either. You insert an SD card into a Raspberry Pi or similar, and it boots. Some people sell preimaged SD cards, some sell prebuilt devices - I've seen both on eBay.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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It's just software, you can install it on any server. No need to limit yourself to (currently?) overpriced Pis.

Sure, but a pi consumes about 3.5W of energy and can run 24/7/365. There are alternatives, but most other solutions will end up costing more in electricity costs. Especially problematic in say Europe right now.

You don't need to use the more power-hungry RasPis, either - PiHole works great on Zero W.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

"I will do everything that's in my power" Will you pay money for the content you consume?

Most of the content I consume is produced for free without any expectation of payment. My friends don't get paid for posting pictures on Instagram. However, Meta still sees the need to inject an ad between every two posts and greedily extract value from its users.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I think I misspoke. I understand Pi-Hole. What I'm talking about is publicly usable adblocking DNS servers. As in instead of me at home having to install anything, just (probably clear a cache or something) and change all my DNS servers to a public reachable-by-anyone DNS server. No installation.

NextDNS, which I've been using for over 2 years now, might help in your endeavor. In addition to its stock lists of lookup rules, you are allowed to customize your own blacklists/whitelists.

Thank you for mentioning this. It's so convenient to manage that kind of filtering through a service. Works for all platforms too. I can finally bteak my reddit addiction again.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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95% of users have no idea what any of this is.

Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that…

As someone with focus and attention issues due to dopamine deficiency, I consider advertising to be, in general, quite ableist. Maybe one day mental handicaps will become as respected as physical handicaps. Nobody would consider a business model that abuses wheelchair-bound people, as a key component, as valid.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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"The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that the overwhelming majority of web services like search engines, social media, ad-driven news websites, etc are all things that users place practically zero value on." Then why did we build them? This seems like a massive waste of effort.

The things themselves are very useful. They're just not things people will pay for. It's quite weird.

Why does everything have to be something someone would pay for, to keep it from devolving into some of the most disgusting behavior? Why is money always the primary driving factor? Society will remain stuck until we realize that money should not be the driving factor for everything.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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What does uBlock do that 1Blocker can’t if you enable the web extension ?

uBlock has full control over the browser's network access and can run code to determine the outcome of the request. 1Blocker/AdGuard/etc use two mechanisms: 1) declarative blocking - where you can specify rules to allow/deny requests matching a certain pattern. Those rules need to be declared in advance, you can't do matching at runtime using custom code. 2) they inject a bit of JS into the page to try and tamper wit…

Yes because there is no issue with “security” of having a third party extension intercepting all of your network request…

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Another great example lately is Reddit. Reddit's mobile experience had become awful. Every time someone sends me a reddit link and I click on it, I'm taken to Reddit's mobile site, which should function just fine and dandy, but the minute it detects you are there on a mobile browser, it spams you with "Reddit works best in the app!" messages, and won't let you view some subs at all without signing in. Reddit is a gre…

Thankfully there are third party clients for Reddit. Check out Infinity @ F-Droid.

thanks for the recommendation! Love f-droid, will download the infinity app in a bit and give it a spin.
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