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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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It's amazing to see the regime's golden boy turn into it's black sheep. You realize that much of our opinions aren't from critical think but are simply assigned to us by elites.

> but are simply assigned to us by elites. Do Musk's own tweets fall into this category?

Yes, of course. There are many people who will simply adopt another high profile person's opinion as their own. Entire industries are built on it.

Musk is certainly an elite.

The elite that I had in mind, however, were the establishment elite.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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A company is not formed for the benefit of the employees and private industry shouldn't be run like a welfare system. What you see as disposable units I see as free agents, adding more regulation and removing the freedom of choice of both the employer and the employee is ruinous to both. We should be striving to make it easy to fire as well as easy to hire, if you tie up one side or the other or both then you end up…

I'd argue that in most corporations, the majority of seats on the board of directors are the optimal candidates for AI automation: all they really do is report to the shareholders. And what practical value do shareholders bring to a corporation? To they have skills in the corporation's business domain? Are they improving the quality of the products? Are they streamlining and improving the manufacturing lines? What va…

Absolutely, any position within a corporation should be automated if it makes sense and improves the performance of the company as a whole. The original purchasers of the shares served the purpose of providing money to the corporation, the subsequent purchasers are participating in a secondary market and help in adjusting the value of the corporation's shares. The corporation can benefit from this by issuing new shares to generate further funding. Voting shares also provide input from outside the company which can be a healthy perspective to have especially when it is coming from serious analysts who spend a lot of time looking at other corporations in the same industry, it can be detrimental as well but because the share owners have skin in the game they are less likely to vote against their own interests and those with the most interest have the most votes.

I have nothing against employee owned corporations. If people want to get together and run and work for their own corporation then more power to them. I don't think it should be the only type of corporation though, we need a variety of models to adapt to changing circumstances and service different needs.

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It was an intentional hyperbole to thrust a point across if you didn’t read between the lines. I thought it was obvious. I could improve in my message though. I do expect more from HN than vitriol of this sorts.

It is strange to use charged words such as "crazy", "evil" and "satan" in a comment and then complain of vitriol on the forum.

I've been around here long enough to realize that when discussions are leaning one way, I become extremely skeptical of the situation. Not going to address your ad-hominem slant, but I hope you can empathize with where my skepticism comes from. This forum tends to usually have a great discussion between opposing viewpoints, except here.

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I don't think he displays any altruistic behaviour if you observe any of his actions.

I don't think it's possible to be altruistic and be a billionaire. That part of your brain has to be dysfunctional in order to amass infinite money while exploiting everyone around you.

People voluntarily bought the Tesla cars, shareholders voluntarily bought the shares. That's Elon's wealth. He didn't steal it from anyone else.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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> you're specifically filtering out ... ...everyone for whom a full return to the office is a breaking point. You assume that correlates with capability of the employeeto perform their job well. That does seem reasonable, but it remains just that: an assumption. And you know the thing about assumptions : they make a donkey out of U and MPTIONS.

No, he's assuming that low performers would have a harder time finding a new job with equal or better pay. Which may or may not be true.

Why would they be looking for a new job if this wasn't a breaking point or final straw for them?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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I'm hoping this was sarcasm.

Like you're in any position to chide me? It's a common South African insult, in fact I've heard classmates say it to one another in early high school for dating girls in late middle school. It's a word, people sometimes say it. There's a context. It wasn't a formal accusation. One in thousands of comments, you actually expect perfection from Musk and police? Let me tell you as someone who has pulled off exactly that…

Musk called the hero that helped save children's lives a pedophile on three separate occasions in front of his audience of millions. This wasn't a one-time mistake, it was a deliberate public smear campaign against the man.

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It's sad really. I used to idolize him so much. I read through all of WaitButWhy's [0] blog post series on Musk back in '15/'16 and loved every bit of it. He literally became my demigod during my undergrad days. And from all that... to this? From a much admired and respected 'inventor' to a cringeworthy Twitter 'edgelord.' Just been a crazy ride. [0] https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/03/elon-musk-post-series.html

What did you think of his public behaviour over the past few years? It's one thing to be enthralled by a praise-heavy series of blog posts, but it's not like you couldn't get first-hand impressions from the man's own very public persona.

I was a lot more vulnerable to manipulation via propaganda and good PR back when I was a college student, I suppose. Aside from the naïvety of late teens/early 20s.

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I'm hoping this was sarcasm.

Like you're in any position to chide me? It's a common South African insult, in fact I've heard classmates say it to one another in early high school for dating girls in late middle school. It's a word, people sometimes say it. There's a context. It wasn't a formal accusation. One in thousands of comments, you actually expect perfection from Musk and police? Let me tell you as someone who has pulled off exactly that…

Like you're in any position to chide me?

Obviously.

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No, he's assuming that low performers would have a harder time finding a new job with equal or better pay. Which may or may not be true.

Why would they be looking for a new job if this wasn't a breaking point or final straw for them?

They wouldn't be, which is why I believe this forced return to office action just filters out high-performers who wish to remain remote and it retains almost all of the low/medium skill workers and almost all of the high-skill no preference or work in office preferred high skill workers.
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