Trapped in Silicon Valley’s hidden caste system

Post by user- » Mon, Mar 07, 2022, 3:16 AM UTC

screye wrote: post #172

user- wrote: post #129

My parents are from India, im from Canada. Luckily ive never really seen any caste discrimination, but we are from a religion that specifically outlawed this hundreds of years ago (sikhism), even though it didn't exactly dissappear. I know its something that exists though, its mind boggling that people still adhere to it. Hopefully it goes away though. Here is an interesting interview type video on it. https://www.yo…

Caste among Sikh[1] and Muslim[2] communities is as deeply rooted as caste in Hindus. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BSN-3nmMyM [2] https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-...

Thanks for these, dissapointing to hear but the more I know the better

Post by kortilla » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:18 AM UTC

andybak wrote: post #470

kortilla wrote: post #334

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> A common way to define racism is: negative prejudice + power This is an idiotic way to define racism that makes it completely subjective to give the wielding accuser of racism to be highly discriminatory while claiming not to be bad.

Idiotic or not, it's widespread in academia. And some would argue that there are fairly objective ways to define "power" Personally I'm on the fence about these definitions but it annoys me to see people dismiss them as "idiotic" without engaging with the level of serious thought that has been put into them by sincere people. Disagree once you've spent a day or two surveying the subject. Or even an hour or two.

I have surveyed it, and it’s still idiotic. It’s no different than horoscopes or numerology, both of which have immense depth from “experts”. It doesn’t change the fact that not of it is grounded in any kind of scientific discovery or logic.

> And some would argue that there are fairly objective ways to define "power"

Funny how elusive these “objective ways” are when it comes to actually defining them.

Even if there were an objective way to define that power, it still doesn’t change how dumb and divisive the whole approach is of making asymmetric the criteria for being “racist”. It has enabled blatantly bigoted behavior by tons of people against downtrodden “majorities” and has done more to divide society than the segregation in the 60s.

> it's widespread in academia.

This is very damming to sociology and to associate it with “academia” is a disservice to people who practice the objective discovery of science.

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