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I'm having a hard time understanding why they would be bitter. Residency is temporary and a part of the training process. Once completed, doctors will make 2x-3x+ compared to midlevels for the rest of their careers.
If someone was making more than twice as much as you, working half as many hours as you, seeing half as many patients as you, and were less qualified for their similar role, you would be upset too.
IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts
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#592I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…
> But GPs often make astounding amounts of money while leaning heavily on their staff to actually handle patients and keep the business running. The private ones might the ones in the public system at least in my country need to see a patient every 10 minutes to keep their heads above water.
It's funny because it's the complete opposite of what family medicine was supposed to be. The doctors were supposed to live and work in those towns so they could get to know the population and form stronger bonds with the community. Instead, they either burn out quickly or move on to far better working environments, specialization or not. Some of these public healthcare units don't even have sinks you can use to wash your hands.
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#594I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…
I mean, I won't even use the self-service kiosk at McDonald's. I sure as hell am not going to interact with a computer for my medical care.
As lame as it may be, but I just used the McDo kiosk for the first time.
Why? I'm a very infrequent customer at McDo and have 0 knowledge of options and combos, but also remember the mutual annoyance when previously asking for menu details from a min-wage clerk.
In a perverse way, the kiosk gives that power to choose back to me, the customer. At the same time relegating the supposedly more able humans to even less meaningful role.
This worked quite right in this case. I can see this approach applicable as well for some medical need that could be mapped onto a sequence of a "few" choices.
This could be resulting in some assistive pre-screening report.
Well, that's the stuff the assistants do at the beginning of a doctor visit. Not that different from a slot-operated scales of ancient times.
But in the end, I still want to see an immediate human responsibility in such transaction. By the same token, a GP won't be leaning heavily on such "assistive report" and would still go on and ask all of the questions again, as trained, as allotted, as billed.
Each doctor visit begins as a custom solution, no matter how cookie-cutter it turns out to be at the end. That's what we expect and that's what it ends up being billed to us.
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Stories like this about IBM were handed down to me by my father. They've been doing this a long time!
My first instinct is that this would be a short term strategy that trades off the company’s good name for marginal sales, but I guess not!
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#596As someone doing a CS degree now, I seem to be the only one who doesn't want to have anything on my resume to do with "AI", blockchain, ML, NFT, chatbots, etc... all I see is overhyped product after product, one-size-fits all solutions that frustrate customers and create problems for humans to clean up, hugely valued companies that have very little real improvement over conventional technology, etc. An "AI chatbot" i…
ML and AI is used in an absurd number of places both small and large. Most aren't ones that make news stories because they just optimize an existing experience. Sometime too much but that's more of a fault of capitalism and definitely improves the profits of the parent company. Search engines including ones on websites (ie: media, ecommerce, etc.) are powered by ML at any larger company. Recommendations systems are powered by ML and exist on most media and ecommerce sites. Fraud detection of various sorts when it comes to payments and accounts. Even mundane things like internal processes within companies like predicting which columns in a data upload correspond to what.
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Of course AI could replace doctors. Some people will always prefer the bedside manner a person provides, but many others won't care, and AI will eventually do a good job at imitating a good doctor's bedside manner.
Machine learning could beat my doctor right now. "Using Random Forest Algorithm for Breast Cancer Diagnosis" https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8644835 Most of what the doctor is doing is a type of modern shamanism though. Person doesn't feel good, so the doctor orders a useless test, test comes back negative so the person feels better. Then we complain health care cost too much. 10 full blood panel samples a year…
Person doesn't feel good. Mild flu-like symptoms. There's a good chance that the patient will get better if I do literally nothing. However, I also know that it could be X, Y, Z... So I order a test to prove that it's not those diseases because if it turns out to be them it would make me guilty of gross negligence.
Concrete example: symptoms of hypothyroidism are similar to depression, therefore you must rule out hypothyroidism in order to diagnose depression.
> 10 full blood panel samples a year
Why? Where's your evidence that this waste of money will benefit anyone? Even yearly screenings are sometimes questioned in medicine and they do have evidence backing them up showing reductions in mortality. What are you even trying to find?
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#599However, consider that IBM is selling off its AI crown jewel to “* refocus its business on cloud computing and AI services*.”
So an IBM that does something like that knows it has a problem and is killing off the parts it doesn't need, so it can simplify and improve focus.
To me, this is a good indication that the new IBM will be quite different from the recent IBM, and more like the old IBM (pre 1980’s).
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#600As someone doing a CS degree now, I seem to be the only one who doesn't want to have anything on my resume to do with "AI", blockchain, ML, NFT, chatbots, etc... all I see is overhyped product after product, one-size-fits all solutions that frustrate customers and create problems for humans to clean up, hugely valued companies that have very little real improvement over conventional technology, etc. An "AI chatbot" i…
Since you're still a student, I feel like maybe I can offer some advice: First, I think you're getting the wrong lesson from this. The key takeaway is stay to away from IBM. Almost everyone in the field has known that Watson is a bunch of marketing hype since day one. It's no surprise that Watson Health didn't work out. That doesn't mean that everything is overhyped, and it's important to develop a good sense for wha…
They write copied platitudes, they will follow their checklist no matter what, they will usually not help at all except for wasting time and they hardly speak your language. Honestly, they emulate first level support quite well already.