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Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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It should be noted that Xi is a son of a victim of Culture Revolution.

Stockholm syndrome? Based on what he has done so far, he actually forced most things his father hated, which is, illogical and ironic.

At least nothing in his Wikipedia page seems to suggest that he would had particularly hated any of Winnie Pooh's policies.

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Calling disproportionate imprisonment (and racist imprisonment by ethnicity) "genocide" is genocide-trivialization, in my view. It wasn't a "genocide" when we imprisoned 1 in 3 black people in this country, even though it was pretty awful. The Holocaust was a genocide.

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> Are you a PRC-funded troll or misinformation spreader?

You can't post like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If you have evidence of abuse, you should send it to us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can look into it. If you don't, you should remember that the vast majority of these perceptions on the internet are completely imaginary. Either way, you should be editing such swipes out of your comments here.

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Plenty of past explanation at these links:

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397695

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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I couldn't imagine country run by a middle school bully. Now I can.

As someone who have spent 13 or so years of their life in China, I absolutely agree with this perspective. The culture of modern China seem to support a strangely "macho" image particularly for men: it's acceptable and maybe even encouraged, for men to be overtaken by rage, and thrash and kick around while yelling things. [1] It looks like this mentality is reflected by the politics of china as a whole. [1]: This is…

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic/ethnic flamewar, regardless of how many years you spent in a place. Nothing good can come of this sort of provocation.

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A Lithuanian here Moral questions aside (as everyone here seems to focus on it), the people are split into roughly three camps: - Anti-vaxers: hate anything government because Vax-Pass, including the China oriented diplomacy - Libtards: love anything government and worship the leader of the main party. They celebrate this and openly bash China because their Leader said that it is good - Non-involved people - worry ab…

I stopped reading at “Libtards”. Which is a shame because it sounds like you might have some meaningful insight. Edit: Flagged for pointing out that childish snark (a clear violation of HN guidelines) ruined an otherwise good comment? Ok, then.

The GP definitely shouldn't have included that provocation. But your comment did something worse: you singled out the provocation and reacted purely to that. That's blowing on the flames, and users correctly flagged it.

What we want HN users to do is leave provocations where they find them, and respond/build on the most interesting things in a comment/article/topic instead. We even promoted this to the official guidelines recently (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html):

Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article and rush to the thread to complain about it. Find something interesting to comment about instead.

Perhaps it should say "article or post".

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Having been to both Taiwan and China several times - this is a bit inaccurate. Yes, there is a certain believe among Chinese that Taiwan is an inalienable part of their territory, but most don't believe that reunification should be achieved by force. There is also the idea that Taiwanese people are indeed different from mainland Chinese, but at the same time, any strong Taiwanese identity is the result of propaganda…

The context of my post is that I replied to another post that talked about the west fighting China. Hence, I did not say people believe reunification needs to be achieved by force. What I did say is that if foreign forces pressure China into letting Taiwan go, then China will fight back.

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> Lithuania … got basically paid by the US to provoke the PRC Any links on that?

https://www.reuters.com/business/lithuania-get-us-trade-supp...

you seem to be implying that

1) a transaction between the US and Lithuania occurred in which Lithuania agrees to provoke PRC.

2) Lithuania provokes PRC (presumably the act involves the embassy opening).

However, the article you linked publicizes the U.S. trade support which seems to have occurred after (2). The article you linked does not permit one to draw the causal inference that (1)->(2)

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It's not really decline but relative decline, otherwise the rest of statements stand. The most amusing thing is that people forgot that US threw the firebrand Taiwan independence advocate Chen-sui Bian under the bus.

USA has absolutely been in economic decline since the 70s. Which was okay because USD is the global reserve currency and Washington can just print USD to buy things and offset the declines in productivity/etc. However, once the USD loses global reserve status, USA is in extreme economic trouble. In 2021 alone, it will have over $1T trade deficit in goods.

The US won't lose it's global reserve status because anyone that could, doesn't want to. Certainly not China especially.

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It's like they want the rest of the world to hate them.

Do you all really not see how our media has a hand in this at all?

Could you please not post flamewar comments to HN? Several (I'm not saying all of them) of your comments in this thread have been doing that. This is not what this site is for.

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> Are you a PRC-funded troll or misinformation spreader? You can't post like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If you have evidence of abuse, you should send it to us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can look into it. If you don't, you should remember that the vast majority of these perceptions on the internet are completely imaginary. Either way, you should be editing such swipes o…

Sorry. I said it partially tongue-in-cheek.

What would be an appropriate response to someone who's posted several comments to the same top-level post, all of which are grossly misleading and/or complete strawmen?

Obviously I don't have evidence of "abuse" (is this even abuse? obviously people can be trolls without being big-co/gov funded) but I'd like to point out the above fact to other commenters who might not have noticed it otherwise.

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Do you all really not see how our media has a hand in this at all?

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