Why does the notch have to be so big if it's only used for a camera unlike iPhone where it hosts a multitude of sensors?
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#592Everything they’ve said about the new MacBook Pros is extremely promising, but they had to add a notch to the screen. Just why? All for the sake of reducing the top screen border by a couple of millimeters.
It's a macbook though. You can just write a program that moves your screen down a millimeter or however much and live your life notch free with peace of mind.
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#593Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…
Apple has always been a hardware company though. Software has just been for the purpose of selling their hardware. MSFT is the opposite. So it makes sense it be much slower/harder to get going in this area.
I completely agree with that, Microsoft's foundation was software. What is intriguing is that when they decided to "go hardware" (which started with Mice and Keyboards and later game consoles, tablets, phones, and laptops) their execution strategy didn't evolve to making their own silicon until much much later. Apple was much more aggressive here with the PowerPC alliance after Motorola let them down followed by later moves into chip design.
I am always fascinated by seeing how the "core competency" of a company constrains its execution options later in its existence. Sun, for example, really was a 'sales' company first and it couldn't "sell its way" out of the wave of Linux clusters that started displacing its servers. Now as a hardware company it too was let down by Motorola and that was some of the genesis for SPARC much like Apple's move. But as a sales company Sun kept shooting anyone who used their "open" architecture CPU by ruthlessly out selling them.
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#594And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…
Who do you think is responsible for the new iMacs? They took a very versatile all-in-one, removed almost all of the ports and added an external power brick -- just to make it a bit thinner. Which is even more ridiculous considering it's a desktop.
The iMacs have almost always been just laptop components in a display case (I'm obviously excluding the iMac Pro). I think getting rid of the USB-A ports is fine, and the SD card slot was always in a weird, hard to reach spot.
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#595These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
Yes, it looks _really_ nice. Specced with the crazy graphics, and 64G ram and 2TB storage, it costs 4000$. Ouch! Is the Max CPU still fanless? (I really wish there was a matte screen option at the price point, my old macbook pro was a very expensive mirror and it puts a lot of strain on the eyes to try to concentrate on whats on screen, rather than behind it)
I think is about the same if compared with a windows-based with the same specs (GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile) and so on.
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#596I don't really like the chassis design. It looks dated. But the rest of the Macbook Pro sounds really exciting! For those who missed the keynote, here are some laugh-inducing moments - "Our Pro users love to use physical function keys. So we have added them" "Our Pro users like to connect a lot of devices without using a lot of dongles"
Yeah it’s surprisingly ugly. Maybe it’ll grow on me but I can’t help but think this is the first post-Ive laptop
How often are you looking at the bottom of you laptop?
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#597Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
touchbar was actually nice
please, ban this guy ahahah
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#598This was a "Shut up and take my money" day for me. I've been running on a 3-year-old machine, straining at the leash, and it's time to change. I made my order about a minute after the store went live, and I won't get it until next month. I suspect part of that, is because I'm getting the M1 Max processor. They'll make a lot of money, this week.
Same, I'm replacing my 2016 13" MBP. Thought about getting the 13" M1 but decided to wait for this refresh and I'm glad I did.
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#599I have been waiting on this announcement to buy a new Mac, but now that they are out, I don't think I will buy one. The prices are 2x a Macbook Air, but the utility for me doesn't match. If the 14" was closer to the previous 13" MBP price of $1500 I would be ordering one now, but I will be getting a Macbook Air instead. Note to Veterans: Apple gives a 10% Veterans discount on everything, including the refurbished sto…
you get +8 GB of RAM, +256 GB SSD, a much faster CPU, and a 120 hz display for the extra $1000
These things don't cost anywhere near $1000 combined. It's a "pro" tax with the standard Apple tax on top. That extra RAM costs, what $50? The extra SSD space is maybe another $100? The display is the only wildcard here and you'll have a hard time convincing me that's an $800+ component upgrade.
If you want the M1 chip and/or want to be in the Apple ecosystem the price is probably reasonable, but in comparison to the price points of previous-gen MacBook Pros stacked against competitors, this one seems overpriced.
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#600I was excited to replace my 2017 MBP with a new model that has a decent keyboard and old-school features like multiple kinds of ports and an SD card slot. With a starting price of $2000, I don’t know that I’m going to pull the trigger right now. My guess is this is a sign of a supply chain crunch, and they are maximizing profit instead of revenue, which makes sense. Still disappointing that getting these basic-seemin…
They've made 16GB and a 512GB SSD the base spec. Maybe they're tired of the "only 8 GB ram" comments that always get posted. /s
Yeah they’re basically forcing everyone to purchase a non-base amount of storage (and RAM, to a lesser extent) and charging them for the pleasure.