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A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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It would not be a difficult problem if they allowed the " " operator to work as they claim it does, or revive the + operator.

In English, maybe; in Russian, I frequently find myself reaching for the nonexistent “morphology but not synonyms” operator (as the same noun phrase can take a different form depending on whether it is the subject or the object of a verb, or even on which verb it is the object of); even German should have the same problem AFAIU, if a bit milder. I don’t dare think about how speakers of agglunative languages (Finnish,…

Ah, OK. I don’t know anything about Russian. This is a hard problem. I think the solution is something like what you suggest: more operators allowing different transformations. Even in English, I would like a "you may pluralize but nothing else" operator.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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True. Unfortunately many large corporate websites through which you pay bills, order tickets, etc. are becoming infested with JS widgets and bulky, slow interfaces. These are hard to avoid.

Conversely no software to install. Browser as a platform. Don’t have to boot to Windows to pay your bills with activex for example

The platform isn't the problem. The problem is with the amount of code that does something other than letting you "pay bills, order tickets, etc.".

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Wow, that's awesome. Great work! For a simple test, I searched "fall of the roman empire". In your search engine, I got wikipedia, followed by academic talks, chapters of books, and long-form blogs. All extremely useful resources. When I search on google, I get wikipedia, followed by a listicle "8 Reasons Why Rome Fell", then the imdb page for a movie by the same name, and then two Amazon book links, which are totall…

Good comparison. Reminds me of an analogy I like to make of today's web, which is it feels like browsing through a magazine store — full of top 10s, shallow wow-factoids, and baity material. I genuinely believe terrible results like this are making society dumber.

> I genuinely believe terrible results like this are making society dumber.

You have to e causality reversed. Google results reflect the fact that society is dumb.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Good comparison. Reminds me of an analogy I like to make of today's web, which is it feels like browsing through a magazine store — full of top 10s, shallow wow-factoids, and baity material. I genuinely believe terrible results like this are making society dumber.

> I genuinely believe terrible results like this are making society dumber. You have to e causality reversed. Google results reflect the fact that society is dumb.

Google results reflect the fact that educating and informing people has low profit margins.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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what I really want is a true AI to search through all that and figure out the useful truth. I don't know how to do this (and of course whoever writes the AI needs to be unbiased...)

>whoever writes the AI needs to be unbiased...) I'm not sure the idea of a sentient being not having a bias is meaningful. Reality, once you get past the trivial bits, is subjective.

Isn't there a fundamental ML postulate that learning without bias is impossible?

Maybe not the same kind of bias we think of in terms of politics and such, but I wonder if there's a connection.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

#598

Wow, that's awesome. Great work! For a simple test, I searched "fall of the roman empire". In your search engine, I got wikipedia, followed by academic talks, chapters of books, and long-form blogs. All extremely useful resources. When I search on google, I get wikipedia, followed by a listicle "8 Reasons Why Rome Fell", then the imdb page for a movie by the same name, and then two Amazon book links, which are totall…

I tried some queries for Harry Potter fanfictions, and the results were pretty much completely unrelated. There weren’t that many results, either.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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As dev I would love search engine which would only do search to stackoverflow github issues, documentation etc.

You can limit the search query per website in DDG (and probably in others) Example: `rust slow compilation site:stackoverflow.com`

Yeah but usually I want some set of sites not just stackoverflow.

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

#600

Wow, that's awesome. Great work! For a simple test, I searched "fall of the roman empire". In your search engine, I got wikipedia, followed by academic talks, chapters of books, and long-form blogs. All extremely useful resources. When I search on google, I get wikipedia, followed by a listicle "8 Reasons Why Rome Fell", then the imdb page for a movie by the same name, and then two Amazon book links, which are totall…

Interesting choice of search topic. Are you trying to make an additional point?
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