I like 1Password so much I don't mind paying for a subscription. But I have to draw the line at no local vaults because there's no other way to keep work data separate without violating company policies.
1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
Heads up. I just tried to do this after comparing the features that I use and what I'm paying 1p vs. the bw rate. There seems to be no export mechanism from web access. I tried installing the (Linux) desktop client, which exports to a different file format from the one, single 1p format listed as supported by bw. Bw did not like it. I also could not get it to digest the json-like data in the alternative paste import…
I got Windows going on a throwaway VM and installed the 1P client. Took 30 mins to an hour but surely a better option than recreating your vault by hand
Took me a little more than an hour, but you are right. This worked for me, thank you :)
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#593> Every so often one needs to go back to the drawing board and rebuild things completely in order to soar to ever greater heights.
No you don't. When you have an awesome product that people love, you just fucking leave it alone. These "rebuilds" always make things worse. See also: Spotify.
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#594Well this is the end of the road for me with 1password. I refuse to use anything that doesn't have a local vault. The potential damage if my vault is somehow is accessed is too high, if the vault is stored in the cloud, how can I verify that no one can access it? In that case I have to give access to this app with little snitch since it relies on internet access which means that if I received an update that would dis…
> the chance of attack is small Is it? I would be surprised if attacking 1Password wasn’t a priority for governments and hackers. If the encryption used on vaults is ever broken, compromised, or buggy, users are screwed.
They don't have to break the vault encryption. They just have to gain access to 1pwd's git and push out a compromised update. And then watch the passwords roll in automatically.
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#595I’ll switch to Bitwarden!
Wait… Bitwarden is cloud only?
Wait… Bitwarden doesn’t allow offline editing?
Wait… Bitwarden has a self hosting docker which will end up using more RAM than an electron app?
Uh, I guess I’ll use KeePassXC then.
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#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
I come at it from a slightly different angle. I got in when it was syncing via Dropbox and iCloud, and it worked perfectly fine. The switch to a subscription service is a forced downgrade for me; it's putting functionality I already have behind a subscription. This is particularly an issue since the old versions (versions I paid for, mind you) are slowly going away (typically as a recompilation and submission is requ…
Same story for me. I switched to the KeePassXC ecosystem eventually as a result — it's open source, has compatible clients for just about everything, and has one-click import for 1Password vaults.
I've been using KeePass (KeePassXC and similar) for years. macOS, Windows and Android. I've also had 1Password for a shared business vault for years as well.
I much prefer KeePassXC. I find KeepassXC substantially easier to use than 1Password on macOS. I strongly dislike 1Password's UX. It feels very cumbersome to use.
I have a shared family KeePass database as well. Works great.
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#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them! The costs of developing and maintaining software are recurring -- especially for security-critical software. Subscription business models align incentives towards ongoing maintenance.
Where they going out of business before offering stand alone licenses? If no, this is a money grab.
> Were they going out of business...
Whom would you rely on to handle something that matters to you:
A. Someone who refuses to eat until they start collapsing from hunger?
B. Someone who eats regular meals?
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When I was 18, I wrote some shareware and asked for $10 from those who used and liked the program. Lots of nice people from all over the planet sent in some money, and sometimes with letters. Most often it was a thank you note. Sometimes people requested more features in return for paying the requested amount. And occasionally they'd tack on whatever extra they thought those features were worth to them. (That amount…
I don't know how subscription fixes your problem. Now people will still yell at you, even once you've moved on to other projects, and even more people will do so since they actually pay and assume that it is your obligation. You haven't fixed the "people are assholes" problem. A better solution honestly is just to accept some percentage of people will be little assholes but hopefully, as you remembered before your fr…
The subscription fixes the problem because you can use the money from it to solve other problems in your life like having insufficient tacos in your stomach.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#600I highly recommend Enpass -- solid UI, single purchase, local vault, and a very handy option to sync via Dropbox (and probably through other services as well).
Thanks for this! Looks interesting. I feel like I should have heard of it before... any idea why it's under the radar?
I'm not sure it's that under the radar. It's often recommended here in similar discussions.