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I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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So don't use gnome and switch to something that isn't abandonware

So, deal with things changing all the time. Exactly the thing we were trying to avoid with this exercise.

I think in 18 years exactly one piece of software I wished to keep using has died an untimely death and it was impractical to keep using it.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Can some explain what's wrong with setting up a microsoft account on a random email? It seems to me there are no differences in telemetry concerns vs. what exists currently.

Now you have a cloud dependency to access your local files - What happens if your Microsoft account gets blocked (rightfully or wrongfully)? - What happens if the next Windows update, Microsoft "helpfully" activates onedrive sync of your folders by default and exfiltrates your data? (HTC did this to me before with their Sense UI). - Maybe the latter leads to the folder if OneDrive syncs some copyrighted data to their…

> Now you have a cloud dependency to access your local files

That doesn't make sense and isn't how signing into windows with a microsoft account works now.

> What happens if your Microsoft account gets blocked (rightfully or wrongfully)?

A microsoft account that was created to set up a computer and then never touched again?

> What happens if the next Windows update, Microsoft "helpfully" activates onedrive sync of your folders by default and exfiltrates your data? (HTC did this to me before with their Sense UI).

> Maybe the latter leads to the folder if OneDrive syncs some copyrighted data to their service they think you're pirating?

Seems a little farfetched to me. I'd rate it on a similar level of risk to apple requiring me to create an id if I want to use any apps on my iphone.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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I wiped a brand new Windows laptop just last week and installed Linux because Windows 'S' Mode wouldn't let me install Firefox without a Windows account. Very happy with the change to linux and I don't have to worry about accidentally saving personal documents to the OneDrive cloud. Product companies should take note, I'd probably own a few more electronics if they didn't require that consumers 'create an account' or…

I've been considering making the switch to a Linux distro full-time, this move by Microsoft might be deciding factor. It sounds like they restricted Firefox installations to force users to use Edge.....

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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Might be, I don't know. But I am not going to use biometrics either, for various reasons.

Would you mind sharing few of them? I use fingerprint reader on my phone and laptop, is there a reason I shouldn't? Face recognition is something I have a problem with. I don't like cameras, especially those you cannot unplug.

For biometrics in general, there's a huge list, starting from cannot change and therefore rely on the implementation, all the way down to hard to deny that I have access. While I can say, no, I don't have a password to this random device you are showing me, with biometrics, you can just wave it in front of my face and it unlocks. Maybe even when I am asleep / unconscious.

For the specific case here, about my laptop: for instance, I can't simply hand the notebook to my dad, _telling_ him the password and he's good to go. This is the downside where I can't simply share a (biometric) login, even if I want to. Which also means that every access automatically implies that it's really me, and not someone else I just gave quick access to without reconfiguring the system.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Do you really need Windows? Our family laptop runs Linux, it does Teams for school, MineCraft, Netflix. You could do Office365 from a browser, although I admit, it is less than ideal. But it seems like you are almost at the emotional state make the jump... what's holding you back? I bought a Dell Latitude E5450 for 350 eur about 2 years back. It was used but looked new. It came with Win 10 Pro, which sits on my NAS a…

Windows just works. I can't remember the last time I had a driver issue with wifi or had an issue with new hardware working. Every game targets Windows first, so they all work without any extra work. My computer is a tool, and I don't want to spend any of my free time configuring things, like I have when running Linux in the past. I spent enough of my time at work doing that!

Since was the last time that you try using Linux?. Sounds like you try it like 20 years ago. Actually Linux f works out the box

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Microsoft has been using this dark pattern for a while now. Around 1-2 years ago, I upgraded MS Office on my Windows laptop. It asked me for my username/password-- which I didnt think strange, as I assumed it needed it to upgrade. And thats when I got a message "Good news! Your Windows machine now uses your Microsoft to login." W.T.F. I was never asked, never warned, just tricked into replacing my local login with an…

Even without an MS account, when using Microsoft Store with a local account, I won't be surprised if they used some hardware fingerprint such as MAC address to assign a unique ID to that account.

They add a unique identifier to EFIVARS. That's why if you install a MS store application without being logged in, completely wipe/replace your disks you can still see the list of previous installed applications in the store.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Right but your comment glosses over the many UX issues windows has. For example, virtual desktops are associated with all your screens, not with individual screens. Never had this issue in any linux distro. (I'm all ears on how to solve that file picker problem though, that is mildly annoying).

>I'm all ears on how to solve that file picker problem though Use the for long time available patch for GTK file chooser, use an XDG portal to open KDE file chooser instead of the GTK one, or use a Qt-based (KDE or Deepin) rather a GTK-based environment. And for any interested programmers, a maintainer recently has outlined some steps[0] to introduce that functionality in a way that probably GNOME devs will accept. […

GTK! I should have known that was the culprit. Remember gtk2 when there was a bunch of great apps that just worked? I remember :(

Next time I'm on a graphical linux system I'll muck around with XDG to get PCManFM or whatever as default. Thanks.

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