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#592I’m also surprised how many people bragged about jumping ahead in line when elderly people with much higher mortality rates were still waiting for theirs. At least keep it to yourself.
I was also surprised at some people I know going to great lengths to get the vaccine earlier. Maybe they have some risk factor I don’t know about, but as young stay at home workers, the risk of the virus is not high.
I just waited till it was generally available and the local website had appointments available. Added bonus is by waiting the vaccine trials run that much longer so you have more data that it is safe.
I’m the type of guy how likes to go to mediocre restaurants to avoid waiting in line for good ones, so maybe I’m just weird.
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#593I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…
So did you or didn’t you instruct people to lie about their profession in order to get vaccinated? I’m not making an accusation here, but I’m genuinely curious if that point is a blatant lie or something you feel is ok to omit in your description of events?
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#594Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gotta love the rationalization. In March there was a lot of issues with supply of vaccines and the program was intended to specifically target underprivileged people because COVID is drastically affecting them more than people. But you said to yourself, fuck their rules, I found a news article that justifies me jumping the line. So you hacked the system and jumped the line and got yourself vaccinated ahead of someone…
As an outsider, I see no real reason to believe that this guy is not just as deserving of a vaccine as anybody else. It's hard to express how judgmental this post is. Imagine you're browsing HackerNews and you see that there's a controversy. So, you instantly associate one side with "the plight of underprivileged Oakland residents" and the other side with "Greedy bourgeoisie colonizer." Because it's completely obviou…
He isn't as deserving of a vaccine as everyone else at the time.
This happened in March, when vaccine supplies were still severely constrained and eligibility was still restricted to those who could be affected by the virus; the elderly and those with comorbidities.
Just because this specific site opened up to all in an effort to serve the underprivileged members of the community who couldn't otherwise prove eligibility does not suddenly mean he is the intended audience for the vaccine at the time, nor that he is deserving of the vaccine. People who actually needed the vaccine were the only ones who were deserving of it at the time.
Everyone else can wait a month. It's not the end of the world or anything.
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#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…
> They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. I live in Zurich, the vaccination program is crystal clear. If there are free slots, you can book an appointment. Up to recently, if you were not in a priority group (whi…
I've heard of about 2 million shots thrown away so far, but only from internal medical sources.
You would not dare to call friends and neighbors, you rather throw them away. Public outrage only over the first
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#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If the adults over there don't care, why should you care?" What makes you think that the people running the sites, once fully informed, would not have cared? If you cheat on your partner, but your partner is not upset (of course, they don't know about it) your logic states that no one should call you an asshole for it.
> What makes you think that the people running the sites, once fully informed, would not have cared? Without exception, every person I've talked to that has been involved with vaccine distribution has cared only about getting vaccines into arms. In their minds the gov't can make rules, but where the rubber meets the road they were 1000% more interested in maximizing the number of people who were vaccinated than spend…
So you have asked these specific people?
People like the pastor of the church where this vaccination site took place, who called people outside of their neighborhood, the intended recipients of the vaccine, "interlopers"?
Because it sure sounds to me like they cared.
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#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…
> to take advantage of a program that was not meant for them What’s wrong with this? Our whole society operates like this, but it’s suddenly wrong for some small fries to “take advantage of the law” ?” Write your laws correctly, and don’t blame people for looking out for themselves using completely legal means.
There is a huge difference between something being legal and something being moral.
What they did might have been legal, sure, but it sure as hell was not moral.
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#598Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incorrect. J&J vaccine are designed to be stored at regular refrigerator temperatures. They are different from the mRNA vaccines which expire shortly after thawing. So J&J shelf life is much much longer than Pfizer and Moderna and are good for areas where recipients returning for a 2nd vaccine shot are less likely.
Irrelevant. J&J wasn't available at the time of the incident.
J&J was literally what the church was providing. It has been mentioned multiple times in these comment threads.
It was authorized for emergency use at the end of February. Just because it wasn't available locally doesn't mean it wasn't available.
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#599Earlier quoted context omitted.
What massive destruction? Have vaccines been a net health deficit for these groups?
you can go to a community with high vaccine hesitancy or you know actually click the links I posted
If you want people on your side, you're really going to need to get some more tact over here.
Unnecessary snark isn't going to get you fans.
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#600Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're assuming the truth of one side in the matter, with very limited information.
not that big of an assumption given that, as we have seen, the person in question had no reason to make that up and a lot to lose.
People have all sorts of reasons to air dirty laundry; publicity, for one. Assuming you know the whole story based on the retelling of one side in a tweet is a mistake.