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Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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FireBeyond wrote: post #518
Tenoke wrote: post #444

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Here you could, too as far as I understand you just get 2 months free if you don't. At any rate, what's even worse for me is that you can't cancel in the last 3 months of the contract with ISPs which nobody tells you so it's even easier to get stuck with it for an extra year.

> At any rate, what's even worse for me is that you can't cancel in the last 3 months of the contract with ISPs which nobody tells you so it's even easier to get stuck with it for an extra year. Which is ridiculous. It doesn't require 90 days to de-provision a circuit.

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Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by speg »

CodeIsTheEnd wrote: post #136

I'm on the side that this isn't so outrageous; you get a discount for making a longer financial commitment. What IS frustrating is that some of their products don't offer a monthly plan. I want to use Lightroom about once a year, after going on a big vacation, but there's no cheap plan that just includes Lightroom. There's a $10/month annual Photography Plan that includes Photoshop and Lightroom (exactly what I want)…

I do this with the mobile version on my iPad. Which is actually pretty good.

Best part is it goes through Apple’s payment system so no shady business.

Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by copperx »

CogitoRegrooved wrote: post #494
alexvoda wrote: post #463

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This is why for such services (though I haven't used Adobe software in more than a decade) I use single use debit cards like the ones offered by Revolut. Adobe is in the same ring of trust as a random shady website and one ring above a Nigerian prince.

Caveat Emptor. I subscribed to Revolut "Premium" in order to have unlimited disposable virtual cards but changed my mind since and they too charged me the cancellation "break fee". Apparently everyone is using this tactic these days.

As if subscriptions weren't consumer unfriendly enough.

Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by bigwavedave »

account42 wrote: post #584
bigwavedave wrote: post #541

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> No, it's okay to subscribe to something, stop using it and stop paying it. When your access is cutoff due to non-payment, what's the problem? Let's look at it from a different perspective. If a coworker and I build a service in my garage from the ground up where I let users pay $100/mo month-to-month, $75/mo for a six month agreement, or $50/mo for a twelve month agreement, you're saying it's fine to agree to the t…

Yes. You can always demand 12 * $50 up front.

Just to be sure there's no miscommunication here, you believe it's alright to default on an agreement purely because the person you're doing business with is letting you finance it (at a steep discount and without interest of any kind) instead of demanding a lump sum?

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Post by dylan604 »

abestic9 wrote: post #575
EricE wrote: post #555

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It always amazes me how much info people are willing to turn over to other entities that have no business with it. My favorite are co-workers who allow mobile device management profiles on their personal phones so they don't have to carry around a separate work phone. No way in hell would I ever agree to that! Stupidity for convenience :p

If I don't have to open up a work laptop to check an email or copy a couple of spreadsheet cells into a reply, and can spend more time with family, I wouldn't call that stupid. Many companies aren't in a position to hand out fully-managed company phones and will just shrug you off. MDM may be as light as a single app with its own policies, or something as heavy as device configuration (for VPN, remote wipe, etc). Con…

Sorry, allowing anyone (especially corp) the ability to remote wipe my personal device is an absolute non-starter. That is something that I will never EVER volunter to allow happen. If a company insists as condition of employement, then that is not someone that I will work for. If they are that asinine about this one policy, then who knows where else they are making insane decisions?

Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by Strom »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #517
alexvoda wrote: post #463

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This is why for such services (though I haven't used Adobe software in more than a decade) I use single use debit cards like the ones offered by Revolut. Adobe is in the same ring of trust as a random shady website and one ring above a Nigerian prince.

That contract you signed with Adobe has residual value when they give up on charging you. They don't just move on, they sell it to a debt collection service and then you will really learn about aggressive tactics.

What are these aggressive tactics? Are you talking about spam-like contact attempts or some kind of gangster type activity?

Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

brailsafe wrote: post #271
d110af5ccf wrote: post #174

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> They don't demand a full year in advance to get the stated cost, or increase the monthly cost because you didn't pay for a year upfront. In my experience, typical apartment leases are offered on a 12 month basis. Month to month is usually substantially more expensive. If you break a 12 month lease early, you're legally on the hook for whatever the contract specifies (typically the entire year in my experience). Mos…

I've personally never heard of a case where you'd pay out the year's lease. Usually you just forfeit a portion of your deposit, which half a month's rent or so, in Canada at least.

In Poland if you signed a contract for a set period of time and there is no clause about breaking the contract early, you are on the hook for the entire duration of the contract.

For rent specifically, you can arrange to have a mutual agreement with the landlord if you for example find a new tenant, but by law the landlord does not have to accept anything.

Some contract also have punitive clauses in it, saying that you can break the contract at any point with 1 months notice, but you have to pay 3 months' worth of rent.

Re: Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

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Post by daemin »

tekknik wrote: post #590
daemin wrote: post #583

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It's an opinion I have based on outside observation of the political culture surrounding tax in the USA. There are groups of people (political association) and vested interests (lobbyists) who want to make tax harder to pay than it needs to be so they can profit from it, either politically or financially. In addition you need to manually calculate the sales tax for every different county in the USA on top of the stic…

> There are groups of people (political association) and vested interests (lobbyists) who want to make tax harder to pay than it needs to be so they can profit from it, either politically or financially. NOPE! That's the misinformation. They don't want to make it harder to tax, they want to make it harder for the gov to add taxes. That's it. > In addition you need to manually calculate the sales tax for every differe…

The end result of these things is that it makes it harder to account for and pay taxes. More of a cognitive burden on everyone for no real gain.

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Post by johnx123-up »

dybber wrote: post #343
alias_neo wrote: post #319

I got hit with this a few years back. I signed up for Ps CC for a month (I thought) to create an anniversary gift for my wife. I used it ONCE. Tried to cancel and they told me I had in fact signed up for a year, and that if I didn't cancel now, they'd give me two months free. I didn't want it at all! Anyway, I sucked it up, got on with the remainder of the year, because they wouldn't let me put the cancellation in ea…

Krita is pretty decent replacement, if you want a paid alternative, then Affinity Designer / Affinity Photo is half price right now, and they don't use a subscription model: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

Curious... why not Photopea as it is handpicked by sites like https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/graphic-design/ ?
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