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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by cactus2093 »

coldtea wrote: post #393
cactus2093 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ermm, people who are trying to violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government while using slogans like “6 million was not enough” are literally nazis. You’re gonna have to find another hyperbolically bad thing to accuse your opponents of fear mongering about.

> hyperbolically bad thing You mean like that these group was "violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government"? Did you feel much scared of the possibility of some dictatorship (as opposed to an act of protest in the congress)? Second, even if they did seriously try to do that, heck, even if they succeeded in establishing an "authoritarian government", that wouldn't be enough to qualify them as "l…

> that wouldn't be enough to qualify them as "literally nazis"

Yes but the whole wishing to extend the holocaust and kill more jews thing makes them nazis

> Did you feel much scared of the possibility of some dictatorship

Why are you pretending this about some abstract threat of some vague unspecified dictatorship? If Trump had succeeded in his attempts at gaining a second term, when he lost by a landslide in the democratic and fair election, that would make him a dictator. And it was their goal to try to make that happen.

Peacefully assembling outside the capital with signs would be a protest. Breaking into the capital armed with guns and pipe bombs and zipties looking to take members of congress hostage, killing police that stood in the way, bringing a working gallows and chanting to hang the VP who presides over the senate, during the vote in which they are certifying the election, is an insurrection attempt.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by [deleted] »

liminal wrote: post #475
tomp wrote: post #471

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Based on the screenshot you linked to, their "moderation" categories are "spam", "ads", "impersonation", "defamation", "nudity", "pornography", "illegal", "terrorism", "trademark" and "threat". Can you please explain how they use that to "ensure ideological conformity in their posts"?

In the tweet text it says "all new users start out shadowbanned until enough of their post get approved for rightthink by their user moderators"

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by evgen »

cbozeman wrote: post #495
evgen wrote: post #423

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There is a German saying that goes something like "if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you've got a table with 11 Nazis.”

A saying from a nation with collective psychological trauma of over 100 years. No thanks. That's an idiotic saying. The person's comment above you is also idiotic. When Twitter is banning feminist women for saying something as so patently obvious as, "Men are not women." [1] then don't be surprised when people choose to make accounts at any available social media service because 1) people aren't creating blogs that g…

> A saying from a nation with collective psychological trauma of over 100 years. No thanks.

Well, they do know what happens when you let Nazis and their apologists/enablers get a toehold in public discourse, so maybe they actually have something useful to contribute to the discussion.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by bborud »

If this is true, the adversaries of the US now probably have a considerable database of people who are vulnerable to manipulation and who can be used for active measures on US soil.

Not that I don't think they didn't have a pretty good database of this already.

But this still is the aspect of this that I find more worrisome. Russia, China and whomever else might be interested could weaponize this to great effect.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hchz »

nilkn wrote: post #336
mr_overalls wrote: post #173

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> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.

And now there are folks right here in this thread who will assume the absolute worst about you and try to ruin your life. I wish you the best of luck in surviving this. This is why it's not reasonable to paint every account there as that of a terrorist.

They don't need to assume, because they will have your private messages and posts.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by user-the-name »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #568
myWindoonn wrote: post #203

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Well, having empathy with growth hackers is reprehensible and worth critiquing. The idea of growing a business for the sake of having a big business is horrifying; it's the desire to explicitly build a large social institution and use it to damage and oppress people. From that perspective, you're the one lacking in empathy; you would like us to have our sympathies lie with the few who build businesses, rather than th…

I think you are allowed to have empathy for both.

But only one was displayed here.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by wool_gather »

VikingCoder wrote: post #501
sanedigital wrote: post #380

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The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions.

> The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions. Easily done: https://imgur.com/gallery/nHb2lO8 Some of these are Verified users - Parler has their Drivers License and Social Security number, and yet they still felt secure in brazenly violating the law like this.

Hey, spoiler alert for people regarding that link -- there's some very strong, graphically violent language. Don't click if you're not in a good head space at the moment.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by julianmarq »

awb wrote: post #590
julianmarq wrote: post #559

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> best to just scan and pattern match the kind of exchanges occurring before moving swiftly along. How do you do that? I've noticed lately that HN commentary (at least in threads like this) has trended increasingly pro-censorship[1] lately, and it's pretty disheartening to read. Would rather do something like what you say, but I'm not quite sure what you mean. [1]: Which is a bit ironic, thinking about it.

> increasingly pro-censorship[1] lately The US has always had limits on free speech. > Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements,…

> [US limits on free speech] seem to be relevant to this discussion.

But not to my comment, and not just because I'm not from the USA.

I'm not speaking in favor of parler if that's what you assumed (for some reason). Specially if it is, like the top comment said, just a propaganda machine trying to enforce a single viewpoint. That's antithesis to free speech.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by pelasaco »

interesting opinion from Glenn Greenwald:

"Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler?

Zero.

The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silencing competitors on ideological grounds: just the start."

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by MattGaiser »

notyourwork wrote: post #401
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #328

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I'm all in favor of getting rid of the leetcode interviews, but it's not an either-or one, coding competency is still the primary concern, security a secondary one. And I don't think an individual developer would have prevented this; this is an issue with the general security and monitoring policies at Parler. I mean how could they create millions of admin accounts and extract 70 TB of data without any alarm bells, f…

When I interview candidates and their solution encounters an unexpected condition I typically park the original question to temporarily discuss how to handle this exception. This and more generally their thoughts on how to handle other types of unexpected scenarios is an important part of delivering real world solutions. I'm shocked by the amount of engineers that don't have any thoughts on this topic.

It is an important part of delivering real world solutions. How often is it a part of being hired to deliver real world solutions?
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