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What happened to Silicon Valley? Just a few years ago, something like this would have triggered libertarian-leaning outrage, especially on HN. Remember the vigorous defenses on here of Backpage? Suddenly everyone’s clutching their pearls and cheering bans that are increasingly broad and unfocused.
The lesson for today: Anything that you entrust to somebody else is no longer yours. When a social medium or a cloud service shows that it is more powerful than the sitting President of the US, something is seriously wrong. Forget Putin. Trump, Biden, and all of Congress are Bezos and Zuckerberg's bitches.
This line of thinking in the time we're living through is so, so weird to me.
Do people not want to live in a nation that unites to isolate powerful individuals creating chaos in the country, up to and including the president? The idea that the president would (should?) somehow be immune to this is as "un-American" as it gets.
That said, you're right on. If you're intent on building and organizing, don't do it on the private surveillance platforms.
Before this gets too far I’d just like to point out that anyone arguing this is an issue of free speech or “first they came for x, who’s next” is not arguing in good faith.. I’ve noticed a pattern of moving the goal post. The problem here is an insurrection and the loss of 5 American lives. Arguing there is not advantageous, easy, or particularly strong so the goal post moves to free speech leaving what happened at t…
If you want to live in a healthy state, you don't ban people who you disagree with. You integrate them into the system.
How long until their registrar or nameserver provider bounces them, too?.. how upstream will this go?
I think it's in the interest of the FBI and CIA to covertly run a service that caters to the extremists, so that they can monitor their activities. If they get driven underground, it will be harder to maintain tabs on them, but the create a platform that let's them talk among themselves, it seems as easy as shooting fish in a barrel!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%...
What happened to Silicon Valley? Just a few years ago, something like this would have triggered libertarian-leaning outrage, especially on HN. Remember the vigorous defenses on here of Backpage? Suddenly everyone’s clutching their pearls and cheering bans that are increasingly broad and unfocused.
On HN mods banned or pushed away ideological free speech supporters.
Before this gets too far I’d just like to point out that anyone arguing this is an issue of free speech or “first they came for x, who’s next” is not arguing in good faith.. I’ve noticed a pattern of moving the goal post. The problem here is an insurrection and the loss of 5 American lives. Arguing there is not advantageous, easy, or particularly strong so the goal post moves to free speech leaving what happened at t…
From a couple of an hours ago, over 150 points, over 240 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708142