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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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You can download Mac apps outside of the Mac App Store.

You mean after you spend at least $700 on a mac mini. Install developer tools. Learn enough about version control to clone the source and pay $100 annually. Can we just admit that most people actually can't reasonably be expected to do so?

That's iOS.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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It’s a weak argument because Tim Cook has personally testified in from of Congress that the rules are not selectively enforced.

Also known as lying. It is blatantly obvious that Apple selectively enforces their policies. Anyone who has ever published multiple apps on the app store knows this.

Those at the top often allow themselves to believe that their company is virtuous by being disconnected from the day-to-day. I think that Tim Cook genuinely believes Apple acts honorably and is sincere. This decision is still bullshit.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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>Apple requires software to be "notarized" This is not exactly true and you know it. For example: >if you have enough technical know-how You right click the app and then click open. >Especially when all the dialogs are calling your software malicious, untrustworthy, etc. Another lie. The dialog says "this is from an unidentified developer" and does not say anything about being malicious or untrustworthy. What is your…

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/notarizing_m... > Beginning in macOS 10.14.5, software signed with a new Developer ID certificate and all new or updated kernel extensions must be notarized to run. Beginning in macOS 10.15, all software built after June 1, 2019, and distributed with Developer ID must be notarized

That just says signed apps and kernel extensions must be notarized. Unsigned apps still work.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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[Caffeine's original developer here] I removed Caffeine from the App Store when Apple started complaining that a click on a menu bar icon for an app without a dock icon must always show a menu (offering a Quit option). I wanted it to toggle the active state instead and show the menu on right-click/cmd-click.

Did you just not feel like arguing with the app store review team or was it a clear decision between changing it or leaving the app store? The author of amphetamine told that there was a similar problem but apparently he could settle this. > Amphetamine updates have been rejected by Apple on numerous occasions. One time, Apple’s App Review Team did not like my “Preview” screen shots. Another time, Apple objected to t…

Amphetamine changed the default.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

[Caffeine's original developer here] I removed Caffeine from the App Store when Apple started complaining that a click on a menu bar icon for an app without a dock icon must always show a menu (offering a Quit option). I wanted it to toggle the active state instead and show the menu on right-click/cmd-click.

In my opinion they made the right choice here -- that is a much different behaviour than any other kind of menu bar icon has and it would be inconsistent with every other app and the OS itself.

It's a neat idea but that is just not the use case the menu bar was designed around and I don't think it makes sense for individual apps to go against the current in that way

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I mean, on this point I'm actually inclined to think Apple's general policy is reasonable, even if it sucks that Apple is only now adding or enforcing this rule. It doesn't want apps that jokingly call themselves "Crack Cocaine", "Crystal Meth", or "Mango Vape". It doesn't have anything to do with them actually promoting drug use, but it helps normalize illegal drug use in a way, while Apple wants to keep a "family f…

No. Amphetamine is the name of a chemical with both legal medicinal and illegal applications. I might agree with you if the app's name was "Meth" or some other slang term for a stimulant drug associated with illegal use.

The usage here (stay awake with amphetamines) clearly refers to the recreational illegal application of using it to stay up.

Absolutely amphetamines have prescription medicinal applications including for chronic fatigue. Just like cocaine has applications such as a topical anaesthetic.

But it's completely disingenous to suggest that the app is using the name "Amphetamine" as if it were under the context of a doctor's prescription. It's obviously in the recreational context of healthy people staying awake. And exactly the same as with "cocaine", when most people hear "amphetamines" they think of illegal drugs, not prescription ones.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The App Store (i.e. a single gatekeeper with arbitrary policies) is a terrible way to distribute software. Since this is a MacOS app, perhaps the developer should choose to distribute it as a .dmg, free of all the App Store bullshit.

Don't you need to find some setting buried somewhere deep to enable installing dmgs now?

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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No. Amphetamine is the name of a chemical with both legal medicinal and illegal applications. I might agree with you if the app's name was "Meth" or some other slang term for a stimulant drug associated with illegal use.

The usage here (stay awake with amphetamines) clearly refers to the recreational illegal application of using it to stay up. Absolutely amphetamines have prescription medicinal applications including for chronic fatigue. Just like cocaine has applications such as a topical anaesthetic. But it's completely disingenous to suggest that the app is using the name "Amphetamine" as if it were under the context of a doctor's…

Amphetamine is used for treating narcolepsy and idiopathic hypersomnia, too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcolepsy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiopathic_hypersomnia

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

The caffeinate command is built into macos. Edit: This keeps the computer awake until 6 PM each day. caffeinate -u -i -s -t $(($(date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "$(date +"%a %b %d 18:00:00 %Z %Y")" "+%s") - $(date +%s)))

Handy, but not exactly easy on the eyes. I usually just us the -t flag to pass it seconds, like 'caffeinate -t 3600' to prevent sleep for the next hour.
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