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Re: Google outage – resolved

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What's the point of having a status page when it can't reliably tell you the factual status?

Helps Google meet a 99.999% SLA!

Not really since now it's up, and the status page still says it's down.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Seems like everyone going on HN now. The site is so slow

HN uses Firebase, maybe that is the reason.

Does this site also use Firebase, or do they only feed Firebase's Database so that other developers can build upon it?

Re: Google outage – resolved

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https://downdetector.com/search/?q=google shows all the Google services and seems like everything other than search is reporting errors

Even search seems to have issues. It can't seem to find rare pages at all, and ranking seems subpar for the past 15 minutes or so.

I think that's normal. ;)

Re: Google outage – resolved

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So, anybody still feel like arguing that 'the cloud' is a viable back-up? Or is that a sore point right now? Just for a moment imagine: what if it never comes back again? Of course it will, - at least, it better - but what if it doesn't? And if it does, are you going to take countermeasures in case it happens again or is it just going to be 'back to normal' again?

I guess a lot of people are fine with the risk. Everybody uses it, so if, like, Gmail loses all the emails, we are then in such a state that the consequences will be more bearable and socially normal. Most people are fine with accepting that whatever future thing will happen to most people will also happen to them. Because then the consequences will also be normal. If the apocalypse comes, it comes for almost all of…

This sounds like the good old 1970-80s "No one ever got fired for buying IBM" argument.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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It gets even worse: https://twitter.com/joemfbrown/status/1338452107419148290 >I’m sitting here in the dark in my toddler’s room because the light is controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking... a lot right now. Some people are compiling more relevant events: https://twitter.com/internetofshit

If your home automation system requires a network connection to work then something is very wrong.

Right? Home automation is perfectly fine and mught even expose a secure authenticated API to the internet so you can say check and adjust the temperature remotely, but it shoukd never ever go down for lical use if the Internet connectivity or the remote service backend goes down.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Given the blast radius of this (all regions appear to be impacted) along with the fact that services that don't rely on auth are working as normal, it must be a global authN/Z issue. I do not envy Google engineers right now.

> I do not envy Google engineers right now. A few years ago I released a bug in production that prevented users from logging into our desktop app. It affected about ~1k users before we found out and rolled back the release. I still remember a very cold feeling in my belly, barely could sleep that night. It is difficult to imagine what the people responsible for this are feeling right now.

Same.

At AWS, I once took an entire AZ down of a public-facing production service (with a mis-typed command), but that was nothing compared to when I accidentally deleted an entire region via internal console (too many browser tabs). Thank goodness turned out to be unused / unlaunched, non-production stack. I felt horrible for hours despite zero impact (in both the cases).

Re: Google outage – resolved

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Unless I'm misunderstanding something, they are going to have an immense SLA claim issue. 99.9% SLA on Workspace services, so any business paying for Google for Business (now known as Workspace) is going to have a credit claim (assuming the outage is longer than 43m 49s which feels like it will be). Edit: As I comment it looks like things are coming back! Timing or what...

57 minutes for full Gmail restoration according to https://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en-GB&v=issue&sid=1&iid...

Re: Google outage – resolved

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It's time to decentralized Gmail, Youtube, and Google Docs, maybe their Search Engine too.

That's what it was 15 years back. I was slightly concerned when Google Mail and Chat were integrated. Look where we are now.

Right from "The battle of the red cliffs", we will never learn the disadvantage of lashing too many boats together.

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