Should I be annoyed about buying a 2020 iMac 27" i7 5700XT 32 days ago?
I wouldn't be, the M1 isn't available in that form factor yet and even if it was it would be first gen, and in the meantime you still have a really great computer.
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2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test
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The reviews I saw said that using Chrome gets good better life, but if you want great battery life you need to use something like Safari. I switched to Safari a few years ago, and I couldn't be happier. Chrome's performance and battery life are atrocious. I only use Chrome when I need something specific from it.
I saw that comment in a couple different places. Presumably Chrome is running through Rosetta 2, whereas Safari is native to the M1. I imagine once Chrome is available natively, performance will be somewhat better, though probably still not as good as Safari.
On the new machines yes, but none if the people you read about before today had AS machines, they were all comparing Chrome and Safari on Intel, so it’s unlikely that stays quiet will change once Chrone is native on AS.
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Chrome and 20-50 tabs, and my Intel Macbook can be used as a blow dryer. Assuming Chrome's power needs don't change, it seems that the only way to control for overheating an M1 is going to be throttling down - slowing everything down. Curious how M1 machines feel during day to day usage.
Chrome is just awful on a mac. I am not sure why anyone uses it. FF is much nicer to use.
Speed mostly, though the last time I tried out Firefox seriously was over a year ago, it was noticeably much slower on pages (ab)using lots of javascript.
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Only in single threaded performance, which nobody actually uses for rendering. In multi-threaded, the Ryzen 5950X is at 28,641 while M1 is at 7,833. So no, the Mac Mini is maxing out at 27% of the Ryzen 5950X if you use it properly. And I was already friendly and used the M1 number for a native port, while in reality you'll likely need Rosetta and take a 33% performance hit.
I think the overall point is that for the average user, who doesn't need all those cores or could make good use of them, the M1 may in fact feel / be faster. For users like you or I, of course we'd see a huge difference, but not everyone is running workloads that need more than 2 or 4 cores.
Just using a web browser these days requires many threads and processes to run at once.
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At some point one wonders if Intel will just cede the desktop and enthusiast markets to AMD and/or Apple and just focus on server and high-end computing? As an IBMer this feels familiar for some reason...
Not a chance, the consumer market it massive. Even among PC enthusiasts, AMD is in the minority. It's not even close: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey I'd sooner expect Intel to start making their own ARM chips to compete with Apple.
Thanks for the link! Didn't know steam made that kind of analysis public.
But I'd take a closer look at those numbers: in 5 months intel has lost 2.5 points that AMD has gained. Doing some stupid, atrocious math of just taking the average point gain over those 5 months (and not accounting for the fact that my pc enthusiast friends are stating that their next machine will be AMD), that puts November of 2023 that they are 50% market share. That gives Intel very little time to pivot.
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#597Performance per watt of this thing is INSANE, take a look at the battery left after compiling WebKit, compared to older Mac: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/WebKit-Com... https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/yeah-apples-m1-macbook-pro... IMO the all day battery will be THE killer feature of the new laptops.
will it? do people really spend that much time away from an outlet while on their laptop?
All day battery and very light laptop will change people’s behavior. Previously they might not bring the laptop out as much because of power constraint.
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The GP said: > MacOS Sierra doesn't even work with Photoshop CS6 I'm not sure where they got that impression, but it definitely works!
I got it from Adobe Web site > Mac OS X v10.6.8 or v10.7. Adobe Creative Suite 3, 4, 5, CS5.5, and CS6 applications support Mac OS X v10.8 or v10.9 when installed on Intel-based system They work, maybe, they are not supported though It means that if it doesn't work, Adobe won't provide any support
I wouldn't expect Adobe to support CS6 in 2020 on my 10.9 system either. What matters is whether the software works or not—which it does on Mojave, and on Windows 10.
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Not quite the same. I want to set-up and tear-down entire macro groups of windows and tabs while keeping others active. Opening my 'Shopping' profile brings up windows and tabs from where I left off. Same with "Social". When I don't want distractions, I just close those profiles. No notifications, no updates, etc. I like the separation.
Simple Tab Groups [0] + Multi-Account Containers [1] are my workflow for that exact case. Simple Tab Groups hides the tabs based on the group you're in and the Multi Account Containers can keep them segmented from a contextual standpoint. I can't stand Chrome either and so I've been using these two together for about a year now I believe. Using a naked version of Chrome is jarring given my browser feels like it fits…
Thanks I'll look into it.
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The 4900HS has a 35W TDP, though. The M1 in the Mac Mini is estimated at around 20-24W TDP.
The 4900HS has way more I/O and is on 7nm, as well as has more powerful graphics.
I guess we're talking at cross purposes. I was just making the point that the 4900HS isn't really a competitor to the M1 because it's in a different TDP class. It looks like Apple wanted to stick with one chip for their first generation products, but they could presumably at least throw in a few extra cores if they had another 10-15W to play with.