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Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Because it's anti-competitive dumping. The dirty secret of SV is that it's an enormous dumping scheme: burn billions of dollars of money to offer 'free' or goods and services, gain a dominant position in the market by driving the honestly priced competition into the ground, then jack up the prices and fleece the customers. Uber is the poster boy of this strategy, but it's not the only one. The honest approach would b…

Google's "business" model has been in question for years now, I now am extra glad that I already downloaded all my data from Google, acquired my own domain and set up a nextcloud server. If I need more space, I buy another/larger hard drive, and never need to worry about data collection, services shutting down or prices changing.

But what do you do for off-site back though? Do you have a strategy for the 'house burning down' scenario?

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I pay for Google Photos and you should too if you care about your photos. I've used Dropbox, Apple Photos and Google Photos. Google Photos is hands down the best photo application for individuals. Mostly because its face/object/place/whatever recognition is the best of its kind. Dropbox: they are ignoring the photos needs from users. They focus on "enterprise cloud storage" and "workplace sharing". Apple: I love the…

Do you actually use that? Maybe it's just because I have few photos, but I always thought it was a massive gimmick. If I wanted to see photos from a specific vacation, I just remember when it happened, or look up the location in the geotagging thing. No ML needed. I've never once wished I could see all my photos of "dog on beach" in one place.

It starts to make it viable to not meticulously organize things into albums.

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Someone at Google gave me a gmail invite many years before it was public and that was the start, for me, of using their services.

I find paid for Google services much better. Google WorkGroups/GSuite provides CloudSearch. Buying books and movies is easy and avoids having everything in one Amazon account. It is easy enough to control how much information they collect.

I would like it if Twitter and other services I use offered paid accounts with some privacy guarantees and no advertising.

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> Not sure, but they might just add up the space taken by individual files? My point is that there is no "file" for Google Docs. They are some rows in a database somewhere. Probably some update rows and the occasional snapshot proto. I guess it is no less arbitrary than a MS Office file, but since you can see the file on your disk you know the intrinsic size. I'm definitely not saying they should give away the storag…

>My point is that there is no "file" for Google Docs They can add up the space shown beside the file name on Google Drive. Which is what users would expect

In my Drive all of the Google Documents have a dash listed in the size column.

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Realistically... if you wanted to pay $30/year for a set and forget photo album, is Google the best place to do that? Given how they often they deprecate things and how hard I've heard it is to restore a disabled account, I feel like some kind of smaller company dedicated to photo storage would be much better anyway

Personally I use Flickr and am happy with them.

I'm not sure if you're just stating a personal preference there, or hinting that Flickr are somehow morally superior to Google. But Flickr had their own 'google Photos moment' a few years back, when they were bought out by SmugMug and immediately got rid of their 'free for life' 1TB storage.

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I do pay for some storage and I bought phones that said unlimited for life. Because of the second I feel a bit burned and am likely to avoid products from google in the future. I always knew they'd do this so I've been backing up all my photos locally.

Which phones?

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Umm.... no. The disabled account thing is pretty common. Perhaps it's safer than flying a GA Cessna 172 in a storm, or being an air force test pilot. But probably not even that. And as for killed services with a billion users, well, free unlimited Google Photos is now a killed service. As for killed paid services, Google Play Music, Nest Secure, Google Photos Print, Google Audio Ads, and a ton of others.

> The disabled account thing is pretty common Not really, it's mostly frequency illusion hanging out on HN, but considering Google has multi-billion users, those dozen or so incidents are nothing in comparison. > free unlimited Google Photos That's a feature, not a service. And name me one other company that provides unlimited free storage. > Google Play Music Technically migrated, all your data and purchases are sti…

> Not really, it's mostly frequency illusion hanging out on HN, but considering Google has multi-billion users, those dozen or so incidents are nothing in comparison.

It's not at all uncommon.

I've done business with Google multiple times in my career, and I could name a dozen such incidents. They're just not public.

For the most part, there wasn't anything the user did; just Google algorithm bugs. In one case, a startup lost all of its data because one Google system expected another Google system to implement a fraud detection measure, and the other Google system didn't. Completely internal to Google, but poof, all of a sudden, account gone, all data gone, and no way to fix it.

In another case, GCE lost a contract worth millions of dollars to AWS because Youtube had algorithm bugs. Poof. Youtube system broke. This was early GCE days, and they were looking for successes, and we were sufficiently high-profile that we had a dedicated engineering team. They pushed on Youtube. Youtube said we weren't important enough to help.

Most of this stuff is either under NDA, or otherwise just private, but it is why my current employer, as a policy, doesn't do business with Google. That's a big contract too; I'm not at a startup right now, but at a big company.

> And name me one other company that provides unlimited free storage

I think you're unintentionally arguing I shouldn't rely on Google-unique features, since I might lose them. I already knew that. I've learned that lesson painfully over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

That hurts Google in B2B. If all customers take that philosophy, Google fundamentally can't have unique, differentiating advantages beyond price. It doesn't matter what unique AI algorithm Googlers come up with for the Google Cloud. I won't use it if I can't count on it still being around when I ship my product. And I can't. The only time I will use Google is if it provides unique customer access (e.g. Android apps or Youtube eyeballs), which hopefully the antitrust thing will help with.

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There's also Yandex Disc [0] which is still offering unlimited photo uploads from mobile devices. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they followed Google's lead on this and curtailed their offering as well. As they seem to pretty much mirror everything else Google does. Yandex Disc also has an AI which allows you to search for objects within your photos. [0] https://yandex.com/promo/disk/unlim

You might want to be aware that Yandex is a Russian company before moving all your photos there.

Not everyone who reads this site is a "reds under the bed" paranoid American.
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