Does anyone know if these speeds will scale (well, remain constant) as the number of customers increase? For instance, the 4G network can and does get overloaded in crowded places, could the same thing occur to satellite internet?
Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps
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#592Starlink internet is not meant to replace hard line internet. There is no getting around the physics of cable being so much cheaper/easier. Even terrestrial cell towers are more efficient and cheaper than satellites. This is 100% meant to supplement existing infrastructure not to replace it. You will almost always get cheaper and faster internet (for both you and the company providing internet) over a cable to your h…
Weren't they also going to track airplanes with it, to avoid new mh-370 cases where they don't know where it went and where it crashed?
We kinda know where MH-370 went, just not where it crashed.
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#593Earlier quoted context omitted.
This thread isn't about what other satellite providers do. It's about the Cable/Fiber/DSL providers. And even when those companies use contractors to do the work (like Spectrum, Comcast, etc), they're still the ones paying those contractors. Let's keep it on-topic.
Please reread this thread. This is the comment I was replying to: > SpaceX isn't doing the install work work on these Starlink kits. They just sell you some hardware. If you're a terrestrial-based internet provider, you need a fleet of installers and they also have to do constant maintenance work This is not true. SpaceX is absolutely going to be doing most of the installs through independent contractors. The origina…
Absolutely not correct. Read the terms from what they sent everyone in the beta program:
"You are responsible for installing the Starlink Kit. Do not allow third parties, or those not associated with SpaceX, to access or install the Starlink Kit unless you obtain approval from SpaceX," Starlink says.
"Do not install the Starlink Kit at your home if you do not have the authority to do so. It is your responsibility to ensure compliance with all applicable zoning, ordinances, covenants, conditions, restrictions, lease obligations and landlord/owner approvals related to the installation location."
SpaceX is not doing any of these installs themselves or through contractors. They've been very up front about this and how it's not just going to be for the beta program.
Keep up the FUD though.
It's a phased array antenna -- it's really simple to install. People are already doing this themselves on top of RVs and work trucks. It has motors that are self-adjusting. Their instructions are "1) plug in socket, 2) point at sky."
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It is a very much overdone reputation. I've lived in Aus all my life, much of it rural and I don't know a single person who has been bitten by a snake or shark let alone died. Spider - maybe but most a very shy. But again some bitten, not one died that I know of. Compare to the USA. Cougars and bears should scare you MUCH more than anything in Australia. And rabies. We have no rabies. Some rabies-like diseases but yo…
In the USA you might also just you know, get shot.
It took all of two minutes to find a shooting incident in Australia from last year, showing not only that youre wrong, but that yet again gun control stops law abiding citizens but not criminals.
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/05/729901315/deadly-shooting-sho...
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Ok you got me with "overlooking the ocean". I will admit, I was a little bit envious. But then I recalled the great Terry Pratchett quote that you are living on a continent where pretty much every animal, except for maybe some sheep, is equipped with some venom and actively trying to kill you. Plus some of the plants. So I guess it's fair play.
This is part of a global 5G/Soros/Gates conspiracy to keep Australia uninhabited - I've never been bitten by anything - maybe a bee when I was 12? And I spend the majority of my time walking, hiking, surfing, sailing, camping, etc.
Minor nitpick, bees don’t bite, they sting. Biting happens with the mouth (ants, beetles, etc) not a stinger.
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#596Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the USA you might also just you know, get shot.
It took all of two minutes to find a shooting incident in Australia from last year, showing not only that youre wrong, but that yet again gun control stops law abiding citizens but not criminals. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/05/729901315/deadly-shooting-sho...
I'm wrong about what? The grandparent made a joke about dangerous animals killing people in Australia, I made a joke about guns killing people in America. Also picking out a single data point is a strange way to prove your point and try and start an argument about gun control in the US vs Australia, a debate I don't care to have since I don't live in either country.
Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps
#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please reread this thread. This is the comment I was replying to: > SpaceX isn't doing the install work work on these Starlink kits. They just sell you some hardware. If you're a terrestrial-based internet provider, you need a fleet of installers and they also have to do constant maintenance work This is not true. SpaceX is absolutely going to be doing most of the installs through independent contractors. The origina…
Absolutely not correct. Read the terms from what they sent everyone in the beta program: "You are responsible for installing the Starlink Kit. Do not allow third parties, or those not associated with SpaceX, to access or install the Starlink Kit unless you obtain approval from SpaceX," Starlink says. "Do not install the Starlink Kit at your home if you do not have the authority to do so. It is your responsibility to…
Wrong. A beta program where they don't want things leaked is very different from the real system. They self-selected a group of people capable of doing this. Do you really think that millions of real customers are capable installing on their own? More importantly, doing this without an issue later that requires calling customer service. It doesn't matter if it's a phased array. It MUST be installed securely in a location where there would be no blocking. This requires a professional. Trust me, I'm very familiar with this industry, and Elon can't work magic. You are taking your own understanding of how the general population is and assuming they're all reddit/HN readers.
Please show me where they've been up front that after the beta it will continue to do this. Also remember that almost everything Elon has said about starlink has turned out to not be accurate or delayed.
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In rural areas, we have LTE-based FWA. 10 MHz wide channel with 256-QAM can push 100 Mbps down.
I'd argue if you get 100 Mbps down, you're not all that rural.
European rural :) It is a valley, tho, and if there wasn't that one tower, there would be 0 bps.
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Reliable 10mbps is a stable full hd stream and 5ish mbps to spare. Easily one stable video call or two at lower quality. It'll be annoying if you want to download the latest AAA shooter coming in at dozens and dozens of gigabytes, sure. But you can do a lot at 10mbps as 1-2 people needing the uplink. That's really nice.
Totally agree. Also - my frustrations over the last few days compel me to point out that the latest AAA shooter is in fact 227 GB, plus >100GB of updates.
Google Stadia should ship 1TB disks filled with 3-4 games to Starlink customers.
Edit: these customers would be unable to use Stadia properly, because of bad latency; at least you can capture them as customers.
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#600Earlier quoted context omitted.
It took all of two minutes to find a shooting incident in Australia from last year, showing not only that youre wrong, but that yet again gun control stops law abiding citizens but not criminals. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/05/729901315/deadly-shooting-sho...
I'm wrong about what? The grandparent made a joke about dangerous animals killing people in Australia, I made a joke about guns killing people in America. Also picking out a single data point is a strange way to prove your point and try and start an argument about gun control in the US vs Australia, a debate I don't care to have since I don't live in either country.
Ok so you have no care about the subject, no care about either country, you saw it fit to respond.....
And yes one datapoint is all it takes to show you can die in Australia from a gun just like in the US and nearly, if not every, country on earth. What a wonderful thing to joke about.