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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by z3phyr »

doctor_eval wrote: post #555
_jal wrote: post #165

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> If everyone treated piracy as theft (it is) Then everybody would be as wrong as you. You can repeat this as much as you like, but it is simply false. Legally speaking: copyright infringement is an offense distinct from theft. Speaking from reality: copyright infringement does not deprive the holder of the right of their property. Speaking ethically: Copyright infringement is a violation of a particular commercial m…

I agree with your interpretation of copyright and that it is not theft, but your position ignores the fact that very many “properties” would not exist except for the understanding that they might be profitable. In some cases, like GoT, the likelihood of profitability is very high. In that sense, copyright infringement _indirectly_ deprives the holder of the property through the capital that they invested in order to…

What if someone pirates it after 100 people already watched/bought it, and now you got 500 more loyal fans who might also buy your next movie?

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Post by 65536 »

caf wrote: post #581
jimmydorry wrote: post #475

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As far as I recall, $20 wouldn't even get you a single GoT episode in Australia. As a consequence, Australia had one of the highest piracy rates on GoT / HBO shows.

If you were willing to wait until the month that the final episode aired, you could watch every episode for $15 (by subscribing to Foxtel Go for that month, then cancelling).

I don’t watch GoT, but I have friends who have and I know that a lot of people who were fans of the series liked to talk about the latest episode together. So waiting until later would not be an option for them.

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Post by doctor_eval »

z3phyr wrote: post #591
doctor_eval wrote: post #555

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I agree with your interpretation of copyright and that it is not theft, but your position ignores the fact that very many “properties” would not exist except for the understanding that they might be profitable. In some cases, like GoT, the likelihood of profitability is very high. In that sense, copyright infringement _indirectly_ deprives the holder of the property through the capital that they invested in order to…

What if someone pirates it after 100 people already watched/bought it, and now you got 500 more loyal fans who might also buy your next movie?

The actual likelihood of this happening in the real world approaches zero, given the intrinsic incentives of pirates ie to release as early as possible, and the fact that pirates don’t usually know (or care) if the product has recouped its investment, or not.

Even if it was possible, surely the people who have invested real money should be the ones to make this decision? Indeed, lots of IP becomes free (even freedom-free) after it’s made money, eg the Quake engine.

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Post by smileybarry »

caf wrote: post #581
jimmydorry wrote: post #475

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As far as I recall, $20 wouldn't even get you a single GoT episode in Australia. As a consequence, Australia had one of the highest piracy rates on GoT / HBO shows.

If you were willing to wait until the month that the final episode aired, you could watch every episode for $15 (by subscribing to Foxtel Go for that month, then cancelling).

That works for most shows, but with Game of Thrones you'd get left out of the conversation that same week and risk seeing spoilers everywhere.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by wil421 »

j79 wrote: post #583
lioeters wrote: post #467

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Wow, a classic case of "What were they thinking?".. > a senior customer service rep If an intern or new hire was guilty, it'd be more understadable. Perhaps, being senior, they got too comfortable with the power they wielded - but without the tech savvy to understand the consequences.

> "What were they thinking?" There were sites that tracked ratio which required maintaining a certain ratio to continue to be a member. Some members, however, took pride in having a ratio that skewed uploads over downloads. I personally know people who paid for T1s just to maintain their "rep" of having the highest upload ratio. Not saying this is the case, but having access to a T1 back in the day was almost a way t…

I can remember someone denying me an invite to a private tracker because I might “hurt his ratio”. He eventually relented but it was a hassle. My internet was faster than his at the time so it was a factor for sure.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by traek »

rafaelvasco wrote: post #579
phendrenad2 wrote: post #466

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- company apartment I guess there's a reason company generally aren't allowed to provide housing in many countries. Some things should just be separate...

Never knew this was a thing. Btw, it's appalling to see more and more companies these days are doing everything they can to keep employees working as much time as possible, while paying the smallest amount of money possible. They do everything: Provide breakfast, lunch and dinner, videogames, massage service, you name it.

In general the companies that provide those perks tend to pay top of market, not the smallest amount of money possible.

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Post by Groxx »

mulmen wrote: post #477
Groxx wrote: post #334

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Signal has a fairly detailed strategy for previews, as they're quite privacy sensitive: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360022474332-Li... And a (small, but has a few links) blog post about it: https://signal.org/blog/i-link-therefore-i-am/

This is really interesting and gives me a new respect for Signal for thinking about it. After considering the options it seems Apple made a reasonable default assumption but in the case of sites that reveal information about me it is a bit frustrating. An option would be nice but, :Apple:.

Their blog is pretty interesting about a lot of things like this. There's a lot of Good Thinking™ through Signal.

And some super weird stuff like relying on Intel SGX for contact info... that they don't need to store, and don't let you opt out of. I basically trust them to actually do what they say they're doing, but I don't see the point of needing that trust in the first place (and there's no way to validate that it's happening, so it could change in the future and no user could tell).

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by throwawaywrench »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #510
jimmydorry wrote: post #475

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As far as I recall, $20 wouldn't even get you a single GoT episode in Australia. As a consequence, Australia had one of the highest piracy rates on GoT / HBO shows.

The Foxtel monopoly has got to go, one way or another. They pay for the rights to all of the best shows, then charge huge sums for subscriptions. I'd pay for Netflix, HBO online etc if only it were possible here for a reasonable, non inflated price without content restrictions.

I was recently surprised to discover that Foxtel still exists. Even living in Australia it had been years since I had heard or seen anything to do with the company.

Personally, I dont feel like Foxtel is a problem so much as the business model of locking up a show within a paid streaming service. There are so many of them. If a show or movie isnt on the streaming services I already have access to I immediately just discard the idea of ever watching it. Its unlikely to even be worth the bother to find a way to watch it.

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