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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by floatboth »

kzisme wrote: post #351
arcticfox wrote: post #129

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100%. I can't stand it. It's unlimited liability for anyone that uses their service with no way to limit it. If you were able to set hard caps, you could have set yours at like $5 or even $0 (free tier) and never run into that. One of my services had a Google BigQuery "budget" set at $100. One of our test machines went haywire and continuously submitted a bunch of jobs. The "budget" turned out only to be an alarm, an…

Is the free tier even worth trying out? I went to look into it previously, but stopped before entering my CC info. Can it incur charges even if you've set up the server to only be a free tier?

Yes, I think Elastic IPs can incur charges in some way.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by floatboth »

prashnts wrote: post #60
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…

Also, if you have a Static IP attached to the VPS and you first Stop, and then Destroy your instance, you will need to make sure you "free" the IP as well to avoid _small_ 0.005/hr price. From FAQ: > What do Lightsail static IPs cost? > They're free in Lightsail, as long as you are using them! You don't pay for a static IP if it is attached to an instance. Public IPs are a scarce resource and Lightsail is committed t…

DigitalOcean also does this:

> due to the shortage of IPv4 addresses available, we charge $0.006 per hour for addresses that have been reserved but not assigned to a Droplet. In order to keep things simple, you will not be charged unless you accrue $1 or more.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by Warp__ »

kuschku wrote: post #299
zzzcpan wrote: post #114

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Curious, why don't you compare with known "non-cloud" hosting companies too, that provide vps services, like ovh, hetzner, leaseweb, etc.? EDIT: Anyone cares to explain his reasons behind a downvote?

I expanded it with those companies: Price breakdown vs DigitalOcean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, and Online.net / Scaleway: $5/mo | Provider | RAM | Cores | Storage | Transfer | | ---------------------- | ----- | ----- | ---------- | -------- | | LightSail | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | DO | 512MB | 1 | 20GB SSD | 1TB | | VULTR | 768MB | 1 | 15GB SSD | 1TB | | Hetzner (virtual) | 1GB | 1 | 25GB SSD | 2TB | | OVH | 2GB | 1…

Thank you for this.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by jtreminio »

bduerst wrote: post #200
RUG3Y wrote: post #126

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Haha ok...I guess technically I'm wearing "over-ear" headphones right now. Hyper-X...pretty cheap gaming headset, extremely comfortable, no flashing led lights or other weird gamer features. Decent sound too.

This is a silly question, but do they go fully around the ear? I have bigger ears and a get a lot of discomfort from most headphones. I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH-A900X (with huge cans) at home, but I'm always hunting for a cheaper pair to carry around with me.

Have you tried the Logitech G930? $70, wireless USB with great microphone and great range.

My ears are huge, they fit very well within these earpads. By comparison I use the Beyerdynamic DT770 as my music headphones (vs travel) as those are the only ones I've tried so far that fit my ears and are super comfortable.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by floatboth »

IgorPartola wrote: post #141

This is a non-starter without IPv6. I know some of you will be tempted to jump ship from DO and Vultr, but please remember that by doing so you will continue enabling Amazon to hold back progress. While ignoring AWS is not really an option, as it offers some very unique features that are quite useful, this thing does not. DO is not great in this regard as their butcher their allocations, but Vultr gives each VPS a pr…

Yeah, Scaleway has IPv6 on the VPSes and the AMD64 dedicated servers, but not on ARM servers.

2core/2GB/50GB is a better offering than DigitalOcean's. Sadly, it seems like they still don't have FreeBSD.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by nik736 »

kinkdr wrote: post #540
timv wrote: post #480

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I'm going to nitpick in reverse. You are being _charged_ - This is a charge against your card - They are not a bank, so the money in your "account" with them is just an unsecured, general liability to you. If they go bust, they owe you money but you will never see it. - If you want to withdraw that money from your "account" and they refuse, then your options are pretty limited. Once they take it from your payment met…

I am not disagreeing with what you say, but "charged" as it was used in the GP comment, it might have lead someone to believe that VULTR charge for usage per month.

To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about. Your card is being charged and that's all I said. Sure you have credits to spend, but the cash you have no immediate need for on your Vultr account sits now there because of their billing practices.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by soverance »

tener wrote: post #398
highmastdon wrote: post #371

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That would be Azure. They have hard limits and they shutdown when you get over the limit I believe

I keep wondering how accurate is that. On one hand implementing that precisely surely must be difficult - if it wasn't, everyone would have it. On the other hand, Azure clearly have issues calculating the bills in real time. Heck, once I kicked off a bunch of large VMs for a day. Once shut down I checked out the billing page - the costs estimates kept increasing every hour! My hypothesis is that they don't really hav…

I've been using a $150/mo spending limit on Azure for maybe two years now, and I can go on record stating that it is extremely accurate. They're really good about showing me a breakdown of exactly where every cent I'm spending is going over time, and the second it hits $150, Azure automatically shuts down all related services and stops charging me.

There are a few Azure services to which the spending limit does not apply, but as long as you know what they are then you can choose to use them on your own volition.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by rsync »

zzzcpan wrote: post #114
2bluesc wrote: post #57

Price breakdown vs DigitalOcean, VULTR and Linode. Of course all things are not equal (i.e. CPUs, SSDs, bandwidth, etc). Provider: RAM, CPU Cores, Storage, Transfer ---------- $5/mo LightSail: 512MB, 1, 20GB SSD, 1TB DO: 512MB, 1, 20GB SSD, 1TB VULTR: 768MB, 1, 15GB SSD, 1TB ---------- $10/mo LightSail: 1GB, 1, 30GB SSD, 2TB DO: 1GB, 1, 30GB SSD, 2TB VULTR: 1GB, 1, 20GB SSD, 2TB Linode: 2GB, 1, 24GB SSD, 2TB --------…

Curious, why don't you compare with known "non-cloud" hosting companies too, that provide vps services, like ovh, hetzner, leaseweb, etc.? EDIT: Anyone cares to explain his reasons behind a downvote?

"EDIT: Anyone cares to explain his reasons behind a downvote?"

I downvoted you because you talked about your downvotes.

Don't interrupt the discussion to meta-discuss the scoring system.

Write your post and live with the results.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Post by soverance »

Someone1234 wrote: post #189
xeromal wrote: post #169

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I'm pretty sure Azure had that the last time I used it.

Nope. They have billing alerts ('beta') and used to offer a prepaid account type that they have discontinued for new customers (some may still have grandfathered accounts). Closest thing now is the MSDN credit. It doesn't require a credit card and the account auto-suspends when you hit it. Problem with the MSDN credit is that it is for non-production only (and they reserve the right to kill anything they consider "pr…

uh.... https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/spending-limits/
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