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Donald Trump Is Elected President
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#592The valley need to get over themselves and learn to appreciate the lessons from the unlikely Trump victory. Trump is the quintessential startup success story. Jump in the ring, breaks shit (always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission) then somehow makes his way to a hit product. He disrupted the business of politics much in the same way that uber disrupted the business of transportation. Guess Peter Thiel re…
Having a population of idiots is not something Trump can claim responsibility for. He is simply an asshole who has exploited this for his own gains. What exactly is there to learn from this? That democracy doesn't work when to large fraction of the electorate are ignorant fools. The lesson should be a better school system for America. But of course that would not be in the interest of republicans. They rely on large…
I'm glad you are so much smarter than the rest of us.
Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President
#593I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…
> at the expense of talking about why she should be president. Hillary couldn't make that argument because it would've drawn more attention to her most damning flaw: The fact that she's a textbook demagogue who was on the wrong side of every progressive issue until she found it politically expedient to "evolve". That's why so many people were so passionate about Sanders. You could go back to C-SPAN videos from 1992 a…
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#594Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can do what the democrats have talked about, which we have successfully done in Nordic countries which is to spend a lot of money on re-educating the workforce and making sure those at the bottom get decent skills. I grew up in a rustbelt like industrial town in Norway. We has shipyards, glass factory, paper mill, textile industry, lock systems etc. Almost all of it got closed down and moved overseas as I grew up…
USA does not have an oil fund that amounts do $150k per capita to pay for "free everything" (university education, universal health care, childcare) and good pensions for everybody. Norway generates more revenue with oil than the entires US of A, for 5 million people, and is third worldwide exporter for Natural Gas just behind Qatar and Russia, again with only 5 million people to serve (less than the population of Ne…
Höpö-höpö. The rest of the Nordic block - Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland - doesn't have oil, and we all have very similar policies that Norway has.
It doesn't fully protect us from effects of globalization and we have similar situation with the population in rural areas and small old industrial towns not doing that well and turning against immigrants because of that.
But it seems that the situation is much worse in the US.
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#595Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those old jobs are never coming back.
I'm not so sure about that. Robots will not be immediately cost-effective for all production and it may be 30 years before they permeate manufacturing. Until then humans will serve. I've complained on HN about the low quality of many goods (e.g., nail clippers) and about how the supply chain to US consumers today is no better than it was in my youth more than 50 years ago. Most of you were not yet around to know what…
One thing that helps countries develop the expertise to produce high qualities, is selling to fickle and demanding foreigners.
Export led industrialization has worked well for the Asian Tigers, and the quality of their products is decent enough.
It's also instructive to look at Europe's industrialization in the 19th century. The Brits famously demanded Made in Germany to be marked on goods to allow the British customer to detect the inferior products. Turned out, they weren't inferior any more.
Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President
#596I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…
This is true, she didn't make a strong positive case for what her policies would look like. And if she did then she didn't spend her time effectively trying to convey this. (can't actually remember even a single policy of hers except for easier abortions and confrontation with Russia over Syria)
But what I feel is problematic is that Trump was painted as some kind of Hitler, which is ludicrous if you spent a few hours watching some of his rallies. He says things he shouldn't say, and some might say he's an a-hole, but he certainly doesn't come across as a Hitler, a fascist or a Nazi.
Why is it so problematic for everyone? It increases the likelihood of violence, not just against Trump and his family, but against everyone showing public support for him.
In some way not only the people engaging in violence are to blame, but also the media and the campaigns, because when you somehow convince a large chunk of the population that a candidate is literally like Hitler then many will use violence believing it's justified in order to prevent a new Holocaust.
Also the Hitler comparison is used today too often. I believe we currently have 4 Hitlers according to the political establishment: Trump, Putin, Erdogan, Duterte
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#597So, I voted for DJT (I like calling him that, for some reason). I didn't vote for him because I agreed with any of his policies (as best I can tell he never actually presented any during the course of his campaign) or because I thought he was the best representative for the people of this country. I did so for a couple of reasons: 1. I like a good underdog story. The people that support him, for a multitude of reason…
> . Yeah, there are some loud one saying some ridiculous things, but I refuse to believe that close to half the country hates people of color and wants to completely isolate us from the rest of the world by closing our borders. It just can't be true. You've never been to the deep south, much the south, have you? > 2. I believed he was the candidate with the biggest chance of winning that would bring about the biggest…
> You've never been to the deep south, much the south, have you?
Even still, the left has treated the center and right like klansmen for the last decade. Perhaps the left's fatal flaw was failing to distinguish between actual racists and those who simply didn't drink the identity-politics kool-aid.
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#598I unapologetically voted for DJT. My issues are listed from the most to least important (whether they are logical or not).
- I didn't want to intervene in Syria and wanted peace with Russia over Crimea. - The multiple FBI investigations into Clinton gave an air of illegitimacy. - Ethics reform. - Repeal of ACA. - Lower corp tax rate and more lenient corporate tax laws. - Lower income tax rate (would be nice) - Tighter restrictions on H1B visas. - The wall. - An audit of the federal reserve.
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#599Typically, Democrats have been closer to supporting the working class and the Republicans have been closer to Wall Street.
Clinton ignored the suffering of the working class calling many of them a "basket of deplorables". Instead, she would take $675,000 for 3 talks to Goldman after many Americans had suffered from the housing crisis. These "deplorables" as Clinton would call them helped to win Trump the election.
Sanders had 85% of the youth vote but instead of changing her policies to reflect Sanders she criticized Sanders. Even after BrExit, which reflected the suffering of working class in Britain, Clinton still did not understand and have sympathy for the working class. So, the working class, "the deplorables" voted for Trump.
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Dramatically increase the amount of housing in urban areas so more people can move there and away from the places without any industry left.
This will not help. You are supposing that the people who feel disenfranchised in the Rust Belt want to move to NYC where they can get cheap housing and work in the city. They don't want the China model of having a Foxconn that hires rural workers to work in the big city. What these people want isn't fully rational; it's highly emotional. They want their 1950s-style old way of life back. They want their jobs in their…
There's still plenty of people on the margin that would move to functioning cities, if housing was cheaper.
(Detroit is not a functioning city.)