If you want to see why this is a terrible idea if you care about your health, with plenty of cites to peer-reviewed science, read "In Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan.
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#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
...compared to eating out. His comparison was eating out almost every meal. $230 is cheaper than grocery shopping for a month for a lot of people too.
> $230 is cheaper than grocery shopping for a month for a lot of people too. Put probably not cheaper than grocery shopping for a month for one person, unless that person has particular food tastes that Soylent isn't going to address.
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#583I have a soylent-like thing that I've started eating, and I've personally found the impact to be wonderful. It's arguably easier, and it's potentially healthier. It is extremely inexpensive, delicious, vegetarian/vegan-if-eggs-are-omitted, flexible, nutrient rich, high in fiber, high in good fats, relatively "slow-cal"/low glycemic index, wheat gluten-free, protein rich, easy to digest, and very quick to prepare. Pre…
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#584How well does this stack up against the milk-and-potatoes diet? According to the popular science/history book 1493 , it is more-or-less a complete diet in itself. The two datapoints it uses to back this up are a story about two Polish scientists who ate nothing but potatoes and milk (or milk products, like cheese and butter) for a year, and remained in perfect heath for the duration, and the claim that prior to the P…
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#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly does whole food offer that a meal replacement doesn't? Are we talking nutrients? Because those can be replaced. Are we talking about the form? Because form shouldn't matter much to a digestive track that is built to dissolve and pulverize food. So what makes "whole foods" so much better?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5369778 Better discussion then I can espouse. Small summary, we don't necessarily know why whole foods > substitutes, but they are, ergo risk of non-intake of whole foods doesn't make sense for some anecdotes of a few startup folks.
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
> $230 is cheaper than grocery shopping for a month for a lot of people too. Put probably not cheaper than grocery shopping for a month for one person, unless that person has particular food tastes that Soylent isn't going to address.
Show me a shopping list that provides 100% RDI of all vitamins and minerals (without dangerous excesses of any of them), a reasonable balance of protein, fat and carbs, sufficient omega3s, and 2000 Kcal/day. You don't even need to worry about making actual meals out of this random assortment of ingredients, just the ingredients themselves. I do not believe you can do it for $230/month.
Multivitamin ~10$
1 gross eggs ~20
30 cans refried beans ~20
~100 small tortillas ~7
5 lbs rice ~5
3 lbs sour cream ~9
salt ~.7
pepper ~1
garlic ~2
10 lbs potatoes ~10
spend the remaining ~3/day on whatever you feel like. suggestions include: pasta and sauce at ~1 a meal.
whole fat chocolate milk at about ~2 a day.
a pint of olive oil a day.
a case of ramen a day.
a pint of ben and jerry's (there's 2000 kcal by itself).Prices sourced from an H.E.B. supermarket in Austin Tx. Oh, also, I've been living on less than 3$ of food a day for the last year, so this isn't exactly theoretical. 230 per person per month would the height of luxury for me.
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#588Earlier quoted context omitted.
Show me a shopping list that provides 100% RDI of all vitamins and minerals (without dangerous excesses of any of them), a reasonable balance of protein, fat and carbs, sufficient omega3s, and 2000 Kcal/day. You don't even need to worry about making actual meals out of this random assortment of ingredients, just the ingredients themselves. I do not believe you can do it for $230/month.
Multivitamin ~10$ 1 gross eggs ~20 30 cans refried beans ~20 ~100 small tortillas ~7 5 lbs rice ~5 3 lbs sour cream ~9 salt ~.7 pepper ~1 garlic ~2 10 lbs potatoes ~10 spend the remaining ~3/day on whatever you feel like. suggestions include: pasta and sauce at ~1 a meal. whole fat chocolate milk at about ~2 a day. a pint of olive oil a day. a case of ramen a day. a pint of ben and jerry's (there's 2000 kcal by itsel…
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#589Wow there is a lot of hate in this thread... A lot of the arguments here seem to boil down to "Much smarter people are working on this and they haven't solved it, who the hell does this KID think he is?!?" That's pretty depressing for a website that, at least originally, was to help startups talk to one another. Shame on you, hacker news. You're smarter than this. By this logic, never ever trust your data to anybody…
This is clearly parody. This is clearly parody. This is clearly parody. I am genuinely surprised that the people of HN can not see that. I expected the conversation to at least be about whether it was parody vs. not, not about whether it was healthy or not.
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#590Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of those seem like valid reasons for you to not back the project.
Well, a fool and his money are easily parted. We have enough knowledge and resources to lead healthy lives without believing in possible snake oil. There is a whole bunch of physiological feedback that they are glossing over. E.g. the act of eating a meal mindfully. I don't wish them ill. If they have a product which is better than the best thing out there for us, I wish they succeed. I would not have stopped you if…