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Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
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Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because more fasterer and more cheaperer. I hope Reticulum gains traction.
It's also easier to understand. For the internet to be fault tolerant you have to get rid of CDNs and assume everyone needs the same thing. That's more expensive than a centralized "internet" which relies on CDNs and fiber paths exclusive to the regions with most demand. Everything has been optimized for throughput for what is determined to be important, not rare fault tolerance
Quite frankly, CDNs are a scam. I will not elaborate because I don't feel like doing free labor for the folks who don't already understand this to their core.
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#583They tried to hack each other
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think down detector doesn't actually have any probes or actual insight into status etc. I think it uses search volume on its own service as a proxy for an outage - so if e.g. lots of people rush to down detector to query to see if SERVICE_FOO is down, it will register as an outage on down detector because loads of people are trying to see if there is an outage even if SERVICE_FOO is actually totally fine. My hunch…
Down detector is a self-reported platform, they use a baseline over 6 months from user reports to try to automatically "detect" if there is a real outage, or if its just a couple end-users. Ultimately, the outage is entirely based on users going to down detector and clicking on "Report a Problem". https://downdetector.com.py/en/methodology/
Huh. I thought they used to also do sentiment analysis of social media (Twitter, at least). I see that they definitely don't today, but has that always been the case?
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#585Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds just like the fantastical nonsense that comes out of Lesswrong.
Do you make the claim that AI is something more than a reflection of its training data? I'm curious what other things you would argue influences an LLM's behavior. I am also generally one to trust the claims of the people who train the models, though you're welcome to the highly improbable belief that they operate in a fantasy world.
Do you think it’s a good idea to self censor because someone might scrape your comment and feed it to an AI?
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#587It was so down that my claude desktop app crashed fully that I couldn't restart. And then after uninstall I couldn't install it again. Vibecoded apps are so wonderful in their stability
> my claude desktop app crashed
That’s every day for me
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#588Users perceiving the products as largely interchangeable and quickly DDoS'ing the other providers when one is down. So much for the possibility of a moat.
Except that nobody has a grok subscription so that makes zero sense.
Agree with the sentiment - but some companies like mine bought into cursor, and post acquisition, grok is relatively cheap via cursor
Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#589Re: Ask HN: Why were OpenAI, Claude, and Grok simultaneously down?
#590Cloudflare, Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud all have a similar uptick in reported errors around 7:30. I suspect an outage on Cloudflare or another load-bearing service cascaded through all the major cloud providers. https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/ https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/ https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/ https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/
https://xkcd.com/2347/ Nebraska man retired
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