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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Music piracy is alive and well if you know where to look. Some places has been mentioned in this thread already. Of course there is no replacing the magic of early 2000-2010's p2p sites like OiNK, What and Waffles - but well curated sites still exist.

Oh but also the good old IRC channels on Undernet or whatever? Not quite warez to get you banned, just gray area with no official support but allowed to stay. Community chat, music recommendations, admin bots and random trivia - #mp3_...

Still lots of XDCC around, of course vast majority of it is stored on hacked servers....

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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Heh, blast from the past here from the "information wants to be free" and "you wouldn't download a car" days. Sometimes HN feels unrecognizable with how much the comments I read are pro- intellectual property. But these days, I do wonder how much 90s / early 2000s time was any better or if all of us who had experienced them are just getting older and nostalgic for our youth.

> Sometimes HN feels unrecognizable with how much the comments I read are pro- intellectual property. How so? Many people just rightfully care mainly about the cultural exploitation aspect and the impact on society. Under that lens you can be anti-copyright when it is used by corporations to exploit individuals and pro-copyright or at least pro-equal enforcement when it is ignored by corporations to exploit individua…

I used to be a member, and activist for The Pirate Party and Open Rights Group. Went to all the meetings and spoke with people, and found them to have a much more nuanced view on "piracy" than your average. Thinly-veiled "I want to access everything for free, big corp bad! Shhh I know it's a indie production, but bad SONY!"

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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What law is this exactly? I've done a quick web search, but couldn't find anything describing quite this. Most sources suggested the law outlaws distributing (i.e. uploading) copywritten material, not downloading. This seems like it would be similar to US law... Maybe I should have mentioned the threat of criminal charges , or defined piracy as downloading (but it seems like you understood it this way too as you ment…

Torrenting involves uploading.

Not always

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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> because you're most likely to get a DMCA violation letter This is why I don't understand why I2P trackers that provide full anonymity do not get more attention.

That would require you to jump onto an entirely new internet, and thats outside the remit of most people.

IMHO it's not much harder than joining a closed tracker. Install a client and enter 127.0.0.1 in your browser as proxy. And, arguably, it's more beneficial.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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> You can’t really call it a pro-piracy message though. Of course not. That would probably infringe on advertising standards. But it is the clear implication.

It’s really not. Ripping a CD is just copying the tracks to your computer. It says & implies nothing about sharing them on Napster.

Okay bro.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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> I make an effort to use Spotify to find and listen to albums, but it wasn’t built for this, and invariably find 90% of my listening happening on algo-generated playlists of songs that sound exactly like a song I like. I never learn the names of the songs or the names of the bands as the songs go by, and I fall in love with none of it… It just vaguely sounds like stuff I like. It sucks. I don't think algorithms are…

Yeah, this is the part I miss too. Not really the downloading, more the weird little rituals around finding stuff and talking about it. What do you think a modern version of that would look like without just becoming another feed?

I fear there’s no coming back. When convenience destroys a culture, I’m not sure you’re ever able to get ever get the heart of it back. Especially when it was the network effects that made it special. I’ve read the recommendations in the comments of this, none of them really hit the same.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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I probably should have just included it in the post, because now I’m replying the same thing hoping someone finds it… I don’t think it’s BSS unless there are EPs from before what’s on Spotify. It was more punk rock than BSS, I think. From the other comment TLDR… Male singer; Something like Blockparty/ TV on The Radio, song lyric was (maybe) something about throwing away your newspaper / no bad news today

New Pornographers - The Fake Headlines? "I wrote the news today in a tent outside the midway rides. And as my money flew, singing to their pockets, You could only know your shame knowing what the good ones do."

Not it unfortunately.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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It's important to remember that to this day, streaming sites do not have a full archive of the music out there. There is still a need for music piracy Even albums mentioned in the Norwegian business magazine D2 can be impossible to find in legit channels. Your only option is to buy used CDs on Discogs for 50-100 USD, or know your way around the successors of these sites These CDs weren’t even on Oink or What (or did…

The one pirate site I miss more than anything is demonoid. I could find just about anything on there. Is there anything similar now? What happened to all their archives once they were taken offline.

Deimos passed away (may he rest in peace) and the old staff members brought it back online. But contents are lost. And it feels malwarish TBH. Archives of cartoons which you can never have now. It was nuts. Waiting for the invite window to open was nuts!!! Good ol' memories.
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