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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by stinkbeetle »

microgpt wrote: post #579
stinkbeetle wrote: post #577

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I'm not pretending anything other than the ADL has a lot more authority than the incoherent rambling of partisans and conspiracy theorists who think they know it all. Clearly people who think Corey Booker's exact same actions, or this hateful weirdo's nazi tattoo are "no big deal" a just hilariously contradictory if they claim to be certain that Musk made a "nazi salute"! If nothing else we can agree on that and laug…

> I'm not pretending anything other than the ADL has a lot more authority than Explicit appeal to authority in 2026? Really?

The entire topic in this thread is the credibility of people or groups to judge this. Are you a simpleton or something?

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by microgpt »

thisislife2 wrote: post #499
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #424

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> they haven't made all material they know public I want more than this! There is a lot of room between lying and fucking up. And if you're going to present a half-baked case on first impression, it's going to be a lot harder to regain everyone's attention when you get your shit together. Maybe I'm just annoyed with this issue. But I came into this thread looking for anything actionable. I'm not finding it. Just the…

Russia Today has some details on the operations of these firms: - Wired for War: Why is the EU ignoring the Israeli cyber threat? - https://www.rt.com/news/639159-israel-spies-eu-pegasus/ - Wired for war: The Israeli spy-tech machine strikes again - https://swentr.site/news/640352-israel-interference-france-b... - EU state lifts arms embargo on Israel after spy scandal - https://www.rt.com/news/641456-slovenia-arms-b…

Always ask yourself why RT would post something, since they are pure Russian propaganda. In this case they're probably hoping to help fracture the West by amplifying its internal division about Israel.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by throw26832 »

noworriesnate wrote: post #572
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #224

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I have stood up for Jews since I was a kid, often saying "I'm Jewish" when racists/antisemitic jokes were told and I have been called those things. I've heard people say all kinds of horrific stuff about Jews. In this very thread we have: "This is definitely made easier by the fact that the arrogance, the endless lawyering, the shady dealings, the greediness, the constant switching between attacking and playing the v…

Comments like yours are what people mean when they say they're switching between attacking and playing the victim. Your response to perceived "antisemitism" is to play the victim, and it is only helping prove what you're complaining about. The correct way to address this perception is to prove that the attacker (Israel, who is attacking everyone around them) and Jews are not the same. Israel is working very hard to m…

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by saturn8601 »

afavour wrote: post #296

As a New Yorker this doesn’t shock me too much. The level of “Mamdani is an anti-Semite” sentiment I saw online (Reddit particularly) felt truly hysterical. And wasn’t matched by any equivalent in the offline world.

On the flipside the level of deep love and praise for Bernie Sanders did not translate into an equivilent outcome in real life. (And I say that as a Bernie supporter).

Its a hard lesson to learn that there is so much astroturfing in both directions that you have to learn to ignore the noise.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by nixon_why69 »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #577
gremlinunderway wrote: post #573

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Pretending the ADL is some neutral apolitical research body of experts on antisemitism is absolutely ridiculous in 2026. Come on. They aren't any more a useful source on this then saying "the Republican Party cleared it" or "the CPAC secretariat cleared it". This is the same org that defined antisemitism as being equivalent to criticising the State of Israel. They have zero credibility on the subject. Also, it wasn't…

I'm not pretending anything other than the ADL has a lot more authority than the incoherent rambling of partisans and conspiracy theorists who think they know it all. Clearly people who think Corey Booker's exact same actions, or this hateful weirdo's nazi tattoo are "no big deal" a just hilariously contradictory if they claim to be certain that Musk made a "nazi salute"! If nothing else we can agree on that and laug…

The ADL is much more concerned with Israeli settlers than they are with American Jews at this point and they've proved it repeatedly.

They don't care at all when republicans are admiring hitler in their group chats because they're reliable votes for Israel. Meanwhile, liberals who believe firmly in equality are in the cross-hairs because that equality includes arabs as well as jews.

Also, serious question, you're going after Cory Booker as anti-Israel? My information had him as pretty tied up with AIPAC, can you elaborate?

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by nixon_why69 »

lostlogin wrote: post #549
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #512

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> it's gotta be tough being a liberal zionist Not sure why you’re being (a) so randomly wrong and (b) randomly irrelevant. EDIT: Ah, a 4-month old single-issue troll account. Lovely.

>troll account. Why do you say? What is the single issue? I can’t find a linking theme.

For the record, I rotate accounts every year or two and this account's age coincides with the age of the current Iran conflict so I probably have a disproportionate amount of comments on it.

JumpCrisscross, I wasn't trying to pigeonhole you but that was my impression based on your interaction with a number of threads over the years, my apologies if I mislabeled you, I meant it with respect.

lostlogin, thanks for the neutral reading, I appreciate you.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by throw26832 »

bradleyjg wrote: post #85
inglor wrote: post #37

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Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

No one has ever called me a kike or Christ killer. No one has ever accused me of controlling the media or banks. No one has spray painted a swastika on my house, or my synagogue for that matter. My nation, the most powerful in the world, puts a menorah in its halls of government every year for Hanukkah. The legislative and judicial branches have Jewish members at the very top level. The head of government has a Jewis…

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by saturn8601 »

pjc50 wrote: post #409
bayarearefugee wrote: post #391

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They have to be kind of panicking that the smear tactics keep backfiring. Didn't stop Mamdani. Won't stop Platner. At this point it is amusing to see them pissing away so many millions of dollars to stop a public opinion tide that has no chance of being stopped.

I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

Mamdani and AOC were appealing because they grew up in those communities and had a history of fighting for their communities. (AOC with her organizing efforts while she was a bartender and Mamdani as Assemblymember and him doing things like going on a hunger strike for the Taxi protests).

AOC took on a congress member that was placed into his seat, served 10 terms (and was known as the Dem party's money link to wall street) and didn't even live in the district.

Mamdani was a clean slate from the messes of the prior administrations.

Platner has many of these qualities and is also taking on candidates (both in his party and the opposition) that have repeatedly failed his community. An oyster farmer that grew up in his state, he talks a lot about his upbringing in the state. It seems like so many of his speeches incorporate how deeply ingrained he is within Maine. The community organizing that convinced him to run is probably a lot to do with his success. I remember when AOC was just starting. There were multiple community organizing groups that knew all the tricks of the Queens machine. They were able to help AOC avoid early traps laid by the establishment.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by subpixel »

pjc50 wrote: post #409
bayarearefugee wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have to be kind of panicking that the smear tactics keep backfiring. Didn't stop Mamdani. Won't stop Platner. At this point it is amusing to see them pissing away so many millions of dollars to stop a public opinion tide that has no chance of being stopped.

I'm not sure in the Platner case why the supposed progressive cause can't find someone without a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure what the alleged benefits of Platner are either. Mamdani has been amazing, but what is Platner for?

He didn’t have a nazi tattoo, full stop.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by subpixel »

utdoctor wrote: post #469
WickyNilliams wrote: post #455

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It's an extremely well known nazi symbol. Probably second behind the swastika itself. There's even that famous "are we the baddies" meme, which uses that symbol as a central pillar of the gag.

Not even just that, the main villain (Amon Göth) in Schindler’s List (which won Best Picture) has it on his uniform throughout the film. It’s not like it’s some obscure icon.

It’s the opposite of obscure - it’s commonplace. It’s a skull and crossbones. It’s not a swastika. It’s a nothing burger.
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