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Re: Siri AI

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Post by lxgr »

hbn wrote: post #318
vrganj wrote: post #223

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The thing is, Europeans are mostly annoyed with Apple over this, not the EC. It just reads like arrogant foreigners throwing a tantrum over our laws.

I would call those people uninformed. It's completely reasonable for Apple to be hesitant to roll out any new integration features within their own ecosystem in the EU. iPhone mirroring for example. Seems like practically 100% chance that if they put that out in the EU they'd be facing lawsuits for not making it work with every Android and Kindle and digital pregnancy test on the planet. And making it an open API rig…

> [...] for not making it work with every Android and Kindle and digital pregnancy test [...]

If only there were a way to design a system in a way that didn't even require you to know who's on the other side of an interface. Some kind of... protocol specification maybe.

Imagine the things we could do, like making a phone call to a different brand phone than yours, or a web server running a different OS than the client, maybe even one that the other side has never heard of!

Re: Siri AI

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Post by intrasight »

hollowturtle wrote: post #515
SecretDreams wrote: post #267

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Use android auto Gemini assistant for 5 mins and tell me how interesting it is.

How many people would use audio interfaces in public places or offices? No one would share with everybody what he wants to do. GUI are there for simplify interactions too, it's just we forgot how to implement them well

It's not an audio interface - it's a voice interface.

Voice interfaces can be silent.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by lxgr »

charcircuit wrote: post #180
lxgr wrote: post #90

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Most of them are, some are annoyingly missing. It’s possible to install apps from two different app store accounts, but it’s 10 times more annoying than on Android. Additionally, there are some EU only features, such as third-party NFC payments. Apple’s performative DMA outrage is getting more pathetic by the iOS version.

You can easily change your account region back and forth on iOS. Meanwhile Android has a bunch of extra checks and includes a 12 months delay before being able to switch it again.

Not if you have any balance or ongoing subscription, including an iCloud storage one. I would not exactly call this "easy".

On Android you can just have two accounts logged in at the same time, so there's no need to switch regions in the first place.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by projektfu »

Ntrails wrote: post #555
9dev wrote: post #527

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As Psychology is the study of the psyche of white male psychology students, big tech is technology for affluent citizens of San Francisco with a career in IT…

> Psychology is the study of the psyche of white male psychology students Huh? Maybe my uni was an outlier / it is a UK thing, but there were ~99 female and 1 male psych students in my year. This was not considered unusual.

It's actually "WEIRD", Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic. The "white cis male" meme says more about GP than psychology.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by bsenftner »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

The issue is anything that is of value requires some level of detail, of complexity, and that is only of interest to people that know that specific complexity, and it is a pain point for them. Now they'll care. Everyone else? Lost them. So, the marketing challenge is to find some aspirational complexity that people wish they knew, and how that can be solved with AI, and without turning that thing into a trivial nuisance, but a valued skill. That logical series right there is, well, too much for far too many.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wiseowise »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #321
gumby271 wrote: post #263

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Could the restriction not be the device owner choosing to use it? If some rando vibe coded an app and the os told me all the things it can access, I'd probably want to trust the developer before installing it. Why do I need to beg Apple's permission to use software better than their first party offering?

Because you made the choice to trust Apple when you bought an iPhone. And while you may make a deep study of who is providing your alternative AI app (is that even possible with openAI or Copilot or Gemini?), the average use will pick something shiny and lose their savings when it transfers their bank balance outside the country.

> the average use will pick something shiny and lose their savings when it transfers their bank balance outside the country.

Couldn't you make a more believable straw man, please? The "Nigerian prince wants to send you billions" is really tired. Try something more emotional! Hackers will steal your kid's photos and post them on pedophile forums or something. This will resonate better with uninitiated and allow to easier lobby monopolistic practices. Good luck!

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wiseowise »

dd8601fn wrote: post #243
aucisson_masque wrote: post #212

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Yeah I hate freedom too.

You already have it. If you’re a fan of the “A loaded gun in every crib!” style of “freedom”, go buy something that isn’t an iPhone.

Let's not switch the goalposts here. Me having an option to not use something doesn't exclude the said party from going against user's freedom.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wiseowise »

mattmaroon wrote: post #245

I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare. Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

> And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis.

Can you give a couple of examples?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by __jonas »

kristianc wrote: post #465
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

A classic: https://maxread.substack.com/p/a-literary-history-of-fake-te...
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