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Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by anthomtb »

solomonb wrote: post #170
anthomtb wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A $200k loss isn't much in the context of the whole company but it may be a very large amount for an individual franchise, and they want to set an example. Think of it like a restaurant chain pursuing legal action against an internal theft ring at a single location. (I am not taking the BAM side here, just providing a rationale for their actions).

This isn't an individual franchise. The franchise was already taken over by corporate!

Right, I noticed that in the article. I should have s/franchise/location.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by hdndjsbbs »

nine_k wrote: post #361
michaelt wrote: post #291

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Selling on consignment can be an absolutely great deal for shops, under the right conditions. If I'm a lego trader and I buy your set for $900 hoping to sell it later for $1000, in the meantime that's $900 I can't invest in anything else. And maybe I guessed the set's value wrong and I end up unloading it for $800, taking a loss. On the other hand, if I agree to sell that same set on consignment? Zero capital outlay,…

> just some shelf space Unless the store owns its building and has too little inventory to cover the shelves, the cost of not filling the shelves with the right goods is quite serious. In a low-margin business like retail, "just some shelf space" reads almost like "just some gold bars".

I run a niche retail store and there are two sides to this.

Most of our business is selling low-price, entry-level products. There's a 80-20 distribution of people getting into the hobby versus people upgrading after a couple years. Consequently most of our floor space and inventory is devoted to high margin, quick turnover, entry-level products.

In my experience the floor space is less of an issue for high end products than the capital expenditure to bring in the inventory. On the consignment side we only take products aimed at the remaining 20%. These are specialty items we wouldn't have in regular stock. It's a win-win because we don't have to deploy capital to bring the product in-store, but we do have space to showcase some higher end used product.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by nullfield »

superxpro12 wrote: post #554
munk-a wrote: post #118

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I have absolutely no doubts a court would consider it impossible to transfer goods under consignment to a different entity free of the burden of the consignment contract. So the corporation trying to reach into the franchise to grab these goods without honoring the contract is absolute BS and they should be dragged through the mud over it. The unfortunate loophole here is that, potentially, by shutting down that fran…

yeah you cant just unilaterally cancel the contract in which you agreed to hold the goods for sale, and then take possession without any reimbursement. You either need to pay the sales price of the consigned items, or just give them back. If you do neither, its the same exact thing as theft. Which is what they did. They took possession of the 200k lego set with no reimbursement. Just plain ol' theft.

When this is so clearly theft, how can the police just claim “it’s a civil matter”?

They seem to like that excuse, I know… but gahhh!

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by triceratops »

gosub100 wrote: post #434
usehand wrote: post #151

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In this thread you have admitted to not knowing basic facts about this case. Yet here you are pontificating on the merits. Are you affiliated with B&M? Maybe an employee or franchisee? Why do you feel so strongly you need to defend them?

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You are correct that being uninformed is a kind of diversity of thought.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #161
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #123

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Child abuse is not an official sanctioned thing in Mormonism. And they have officially ended the practice of polygamy (yes there was some coercion on the part of the US govt) The other three were pretty much traits of every major traditional religion at its founding.

The founder of mormonism married a child and given that mormon doctrine is just whatever he said definitionaly it's an official sanctioned thing. Some coercion? It was entirely external pressure. Some of the mormons haven't even stopped polygamy today.

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by SwellJoe »

wang_li wrote: post #573
SwellJoe wrote: post #198

This is comic book villain shit. The story isn't told well anywhere that is covering it, YouTubers aren't always exactly great journalists or incentivized to tell a coherent and concise story. But, it's obvious the Bricks and Minifigs folks are lying about damned near everything at every turn and not engaging in good faith. So, the facts are hard to follow, but I know for a fact the old guy who lost his collection to…

He kind of is. The right thing to do here is go straight to court. All this drama, grandstanding, conspiracist thinking, and stunts are bullshit. Sue. Get the judgment. Collect.

You shouldn't have to sue to have contracts honored by large corporations, and it's entirely reasonable to shame the fuck out of a corporation that responds to a situation like this with "fuck you, sue us if you don't like it".

Dealing with the legal system sucks. There is a sizable amount of money that I would give up to avoid having to deal with it. It's probably well under $200k, but it's far above small claims limits.

Nobody in their right mind goes to court as a first resort, especially for an older person who maybe doesn't have all their wits about them and doesn't have the economic means to bring the kind of legal heat you need against a large corporation.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

paulddraper wrote: post #393
rdtsc wrote: post #140

> Bricks & Minifigs CEO Ammon McNeff is a graduate of Brigham Young University. Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best are, by public record and documented account, members of the LDS community. When Reckless Ben's team, following the pattern of obstruction by local law enforcement, looked into the individual officers involved in these incidents, they found that multiple officers were also BYU alumni. I thought “it has to b…

> multiple officers were also BYU alumni American Fork, UT is literally 10 miles from Brigham Young University, and BYU represents 1/4th of the state's bachelors degrees. It's a bit like saying police officers in Italy are Catholic. I'd be more surprised if they weren't tbh. (Disclaimer: I live near that area and also graduated from BYU.)

I think it's the very odd police behavior that's triggered people trying to understand WTF is going on there.

It would be smart for the Mormon church to get ahead of this because blowback/reputational damage is hitting them. In the least Mormon Police and Mormon business executives appear to be behaving in ways you would not expect from truly religious/moral people.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by solenoid0937 »

Ovah wrote: post #562
solenoid0937 wrote: post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You are more or less accusing a named individual of severe crimes without much to back it up.

Presumably the company's legal team felt the claims were so strong that they felt comfortable airing them publicly.
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