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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by ian_holt »

footydude wrote: post #495
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> But most people sat there watching, clearly wanting to take part but scared. People have learned that creativity and participation are not welcome. In my experience, a decent proportion of people have always been nervous about joining in. I'd wager that for many of the onlookers it isn't driven by a creativity/participation thing, it's just a (pretty normal) fear of embarrassing themselves. Scroll back 30 years and…

>In my experience, a decent proportion of people have always been nervous about joining in. I'd wager that for many of the onlookers it isn't driven by a creativity/participation thing, it's just a (pretty normal) fear of embarrassing themselves. Scroll back 30 years and I would undoubtedly be one of those awkward teenagers wanting to join in but scared to do so out of fear of embarrassing myself.

You just described me 40 odd years ago :))

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by mcv »

fnord77 wrote: post #421
aorth wrote: post #406

Last year a non-technical friend sent me a YouTube video about a niche history topic that we had been discussing. I was surprised because there wasn't much information online. The video was clearly AI generated, with that sheen on the pictures and that perfect voice. I couldn't listen to it. I told my friend and he was adamant it was original. Yikes...

some people seem to be completely unable to detect AI slop

And that is a serious problem. That means those people are easy to mislead, and can be made to believe anything if you just put it in an AI video. I've seen people get upset or feel touched by what to me were blatantly obvious AI generated videos. It's as if reality just doesn't matter anymore. (See also the state of politics lately.)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Redeemer06 »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

I’m really in the middle of what I should think about Gen AI, and to be honest, it disturbs me.

I’ve been playing guitar since I was very young. I have good skills, I can play hard songs, and I compose a lot on guitar, drums, and bass. I love the process of creating, but I’ve always hated using complicated applications just to get a clean recording or mess around with adding MIDI tracks.

Because of that, I recently tried a famous AI solution. I shared one of my really raw songs and used the AI to add violins and other instruments that I don't know how to play. The final song was, to be completely honest, really amazing.

But in the end, I didn’t feel like it was mine. I had this strong feeling of being an impostor. At the same time, it put me in this great energy, it opened up my head, made me really creative, and gave me a ton of new ideas of things to play on my guitar.

So like you said, there is this weird balance. As a musician, it feels strange to outsource the creation, but as a tool for energy and participation, it completely unlocked my creativity.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by microtonal »

mcv wrote: post #572
sevenzero wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its mostly about sharing it with friends and social media. I dont know why these people feel the need to do this either. The healthiest thing I did last year was quitting all (common) social media platforms like Instagram, reddit and stuff like that. Life is much slower and I dont feel the need to check my phone every few minutes anymore (I barely posted anything anyway). I guess people are addicted to new notificati…

I guess people want to prove they were authentically there, experiencing it themselves instead of watching it on TV. And I sort of get it. When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. Somehow the ones I made mean more to me. And I don't even share those photos on social media. So on the one hand making your o…

When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it.

I have found when looking a photos from 20 years ago, I skip most of the shots of only landscapes, buildings, etc. The only interesting shots are shots with the people that I travelled with in them. They bring back all the fond memories, the things we did together, etc.

So I now, when making pictures of sceneries try to do it as much with my fellow travelers in them.

As you say, others can make better pictures of the scenery.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by gitgud »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

> we need to stop filming people, and we need a societal norm that treats a violation of this ban on par with spitting someone in the face.

Agreed. Filming strangers in public is making everyone scared to have fun trying anything new, as they’re afraid of online mockery…

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by microtonal »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

I think it's part of the main character syndrome that social media invoked in most of us. Everybody wants to tell the story of their lives (but nobody really cares).

In the old days e.g. concerts were for enjoying the music together with people you did and didn't know. The best concerts were those where you were left sweaty from (slam)dancing with everyone in the pit on music that was even better-performed than on CD. Showing the experience afterwards was not really a thing that existed.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Gigachad »

sonar_un wrote: post #515
Forgeties79 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean this with all sincerity: so what? If people don’t want to watch AI content, they should be able to avoid it. Just as a vegan should be able to know if a dish is appropriate for them. Besides: if you have to blatantly deceive people into watching your videos when they otherwise would choose not to, what are you even doing? And yes I understand people already do that. But we should not go out of our way to enabl…

I think that if a video gets accidentally flagged as AI, it might signal to the creator to create better content. If your content is flagged, then it must be of a quality that is not discernable from slop.

Not really. These AI detectors are not quality detectors. I've seen real artists who do quality work have their old pieces they drew way before the invention of gen ai get flagged as AI. It's very detrimental to their business and brand.

It seems like the Google method here is identifying their synthid markings on content. Which won't cause false positives but only catches content from tools that actively adds this mark.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by doginasuit »

ArcaneMoose wrote: post #189

I'm curious where the line is.. several ambiguous but common scenarios: - Occasional AI b-roll during explainer videos - AI generated backing track (music) - AI generated shots sprinkled in a short film - Showing examples of AI video as an AI capability update or commentary

I watched a documentary recently that had an indicator in the top right corner when the content was AI generated. I found it incredibly helpful.

Every online video platform should let you label specific segments as AI generated, even better if it is a requirement with validation checks for certain kinds of content.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by nicbou »

jameson wrote: post #74

I suggest turning off recommendation if you dislike what they suggest My YT landing page is completely blank and need to go "subscription" tab to see newly uploaded vids from the ones I subscribe to It's quite nice not having to view all kinds of random stuff YT wants me to see

I use Unhooked on desktop and UnTrap on iOS for this. Both work flawlessly, and reduced my YouTube usage to almost zero.
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