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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #125

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I've been a Kagi subscriber for several years now. If you're questioning the AI features, know that I am only barely aware they exist. I have never, not even once, accidentally or otherwise, engaged the AI features without going out of my way to do so. I've never seen what their AI is like. I have no idea what it's for or why I'd want it. It's beautiful. Kagi has AI I suppose, but it's over there and not in my face.…

The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed) about this fact.

You could always choose to use software that respects the user's freedom.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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Kagi uses Yandex which is Russian.

I use a great number of russian sites, mostly when I want to download textbooks, audiobooks, etc.

And people who have a problem with that should first fix the failure of the western world to provide equivalent services.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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I’ve seen this, but can’t understand it. - they issue you a code when you are logged in - they track that code for multiple use - all they can do is claim that the code was securely generated and it isn’t just an API KEY to your account… but they’re already telling you it is database tracked How can you have any even the 1/2 best proof it isn’t just an API KEY that directly links to your account? I see no trust path…

I mean its as private as VPNs are and people pay for those too.

Except for a VPN the the VPN company only sees who you are connecting to and usually not the decrypted HTTPS streams. That's defense in depth.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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You are the google search engine pre-2010, well before Google lost their "don't be evil" motto, made the first results page favour sponsors and added AI overview. You respond to a search query with a list of https:// URLs, each accompanied by a representative quote from the destination page that demonstrates the link's relevance to the query, and nothing else. The query is: We live in the dystopia we deserve. We have…

I had to laugh as I read this, but it feels so appropriate to the current state. I will say off topic that, speaking to an early googler, there is actually documentation of meetings where they discussed what "don't be evil" meant and decided actual business options they should and should not pursue. It was not just a motto or a "code of conduct", but meant as and used to justify consequential actions.

Apparently letting them get McDonnell Douglas'd by Doubleclick was not considered being evil?

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #304

You are the google search engine pre-2010, well before Google lost their "don't be evil" motto, made the first results page favour sponsors and added AI overview. You respond to a search query with a list of https:// URLs, each accompanied by a representative quote from the destination page that demonstrates the link's relevance to the query, and nothing else. The query is: We live in the dystopia we deserve. We have…

> https:// Pre-2010 Google search didn't use https by default, almost no one did besides specific cases, like processing payment. And even then, only the critical part was https, the rest, like images was plain http. So, for a true pre-2010 experience, you want http:// links. Post-2010 Google played an important role in pushing for https. From boosting https search results, to Chrome being annoying to unencrypted con…

Ironically pre-2010 HTTP sites that have not been updated will still work but HTTPS sites from that era would not be accessible from modern browsers.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #331

You are the google search engine pre-2010, well before Google lost their "don't be evil" motto, made the first results page favour sponsors and added AI overview. You respond to a search query with a list of https:// URLs, each accompanied by a representative quote from the destination page that demonstrates the link's relevance to the query, and nothing else. The query is: We live in the dystopia we deserve. We have…

> We live in the dystopia we deserve. We have built it with our own hands and it is here to stay. That's a bit unfair. Not all of us who live in it had a hand in building it. In fact, very few of us had the leverage to fight against it.

Some contributed more than others but few of us are entirely innocent since we keep using the products in question and do our part in supporting their business models. We also have failed to change the laws to prevent all of this.

Even if you don't have much power individually, as a society we could stop this any time.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #567

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The US attacks on Iran is a different event altogether from the Israeli genocide in Gaza. You're conflating discrete conflicts with different parties and different modes of engagement. The US attack on that school is atrocious and I condemn it. While possibly a war crime, it does not meet the definition of genocide, unlike Israel's conduct in Gaza, which certainly does. There's no evidence of recent US conduct amount…

I seem to be not getting my points across, so I'll stop here, only addressing the last one.

Yeah, "the world" ignored killings of untold thousands of the brown and black children but is quick to condem the suffering of the white ones. See that even investigating the war crimes on the non-white people can get people in the deep trouble.

Horrific but it's time for you to face the reality.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #567

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The US attacks on Iran is a different event altogether from the Israeli genocide in Gaza. You're conflating discrete conflicts with different parties and different modes of engagement. The US attack on that school is atrocious and I condemn it. While possibly a war crime, it does not meet the definition of genocide, unlike Israel's conduct in Gaza, which certainly does. There's no evidence of recent US conduct amount…

I seem to be not getting my points across, so I'll stop here, only addressing the last one. Yeah, "the world" ignored killings of untold thousands of the brown and black children but is quick to condem the suffering of the white ones. See that even investigating the war crimes on the non-white people can get people in the deep trouble. Horrific but it's time for you to face the reality.

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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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This is so funny, as though wanting to boycott specific entities is some kind of absurd notion, and as though saying "Sure, what ELSE don't you like?" is some kind of proof that it's an absurdity

Maybe not that ridiculous, since one can guess that the underlying thoughts are more about geostrategic concerns than favorite color of the day. The United States (I guess that's also the premise here, I'm not USA citizen myself) has notable rivalries with several countries, including China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela. These nations are often considered adversaries due to various geopolitical tensions a…

> and Venezuela.

Isn't that one past tense now, after the US grabbed their leader?

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