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GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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post #561

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Gitlab has approx. 2300 employees (!) I never really got why they need to be a public company in the first place.

That's mad. Gitlab feels like software made by 50 people. Consider how unpolished it is and how slow it is moving.

Did you typo an extra 0?!

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

#582
post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitlab has approx. 2300 employees (!) I never really got why they need to be a public company in the first place.

That's mad. Gitlab feels like software made by 50 people. Consider how unpolished it is and how slow it is moving.

You're onto something, I've been part of enterprise projects with a <10 engineer team that had more polished and diverse feature offering.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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initial comment - 'gitlab no more dei' secondary comment - 'suck it fascist' third comment - 'fascism and communism would both get rid of dei' whereabouts did the room get misread?

Alas, it’s pretty obvious to everyone else that you tried to pick a fight by shoehorning your dubious, pre-formed argument into an inappropriate place. Better luck next time.

i was indeed trying to pick a fight, with gitlab, because i think its pathetic to pivot and abandon values for money, regardless as to those values, and regardless as to whether the abandonment is done by a human or a corporation. your comment was a convenient conversational entry point, as you made the scenario political, offering a chance for me to generalize to my point. thats the way i saw it anyway. did something in particular make you feel like a target?

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

#584

Oh and it won't be done until June 1st, so the employees can have some anxiety until then. As a treat.

At least they are honest about it: > The planning is happening openly, including a voluntary separation window. That creates real uncertainty for our team over the next few weeks, but we believe the outcome will be better for it. No good way to execute lay-offs, my preference would be to do it like a band-aid. What use is it to do it in open unless they plan on having gladiatorial matches to keep your job. Otherwise…

Can someone explain why they're using terms like "voluntary separation window" instead of more natural language?

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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post #552

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On premise Git forge with integrated issue tracker, CI/CD platform, and probably other 20 development adjacent tools. It has a ton of features so for sure it's not easily reproducible.

One issue I have with them is that they pretty much had all the features I use a few years after they started, and they have, for the most part, just kept adding new ones of dubious value instead of polishing the core ones.

Could be, but that probably makes their product bad, not simple :-)

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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post #564

GitLab could be the perfect case study on AI-powered efficiency improvements. I have never interacted with a piece of software that, for every single problem I found, there was an open issue always at least 4-7 years old that was just being shuffled around by managers adding and removing random labels. Surely with all of these ridiculous developer productivity gains enabled by AI, they should finally be able to fix a…

> I have never interacted with a piece of software that, for every single problem I found, there was an open issue always at least 4-7 years old You have never interacted with Jira?

I'm going to be honest with you, I never even considered that the pinnacle of enterprise software would have a public issue tracker (do they?). If something doesn't work the way I expect I just accept it and move on.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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post #535

As someone that is raising money from VCs, I feel really sorry for large VC backed companies right now. What you see here is the Product-VC tension of the AI era, and in a large company its devastating. Users want a product that delivers the value they are looking for, VCs are looking for infinite AI scale, these do not meet. So founders need to present two different values and visions, one for customers and one for…

It should be turned into a semi-fictional tale, Catch-23, where intractable human unreasonableness creates comical absurdity.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Sufficiently good text autocomplete is indistinguishable from intelligence to an impartial observer, and that's the only honest criterion for intelligence.

Can't tell if sarcasm

I'm a little shocked that people discussing this topic could be so far apart! I'm completely serious.

Have you ever thought about how you would determine if an arbitrary given entity is intelligent or not? I think you'll agree it would require some kind of test. You might agree that the test would have to involve bidirectional interaction (since otherwise it would be impossible to distinguish an actual person from a recording of one).

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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GitLab never ceases to amaze me in terms of just how bad their product roadmap is. Practical things like CI improvements are put off over UI rebranding on unicorn colours. Yet, good tooling is exactly why people used to pay for GitLab. For better or worse maybe this finally can change and we can get more customer oriented roadmaps again

I actually like GitLab's new UI, but their frontend is far too laggy given its complexity, especially since most of their pages are actually server-side rendered. It doesn't help that they use a weird combination of Vue 2 and jQuery in their codebase.

I think that as a corporation promoting the use of AI, they should actually be AI users themselves. They should just rewrite that laggy UI in Svelte, Solid, or even vanilla JS. Any of those would work.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

#590
post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

Yep. These companies forget that we can use AI too, to unpack these ridiculous corporate statements in record time to get right down to the point: We're going to dump all our values, and not even going to pay lip service to things like integrity, transparency, or diversity anymore.
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