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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by fchicken » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:21 AM UTC

pretzel5297 wrote: post #548

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> I also want to say I really appreciate Tim Cook’s emphasis on user privacy and I hope John Ternus can continue this trend. You're kidding right? News [1] just broke about how Apple's permanent notification storage (that they refuse to fix) undermines encryption and is being exploited by law enforcement. And they conveniently left out the fact that they were giving out push notification data to law enforcement witho…

I mean...

Really what apple is doing is putting a spin on their core business model of selling users the technology rather than renting it to them by subsidizing its development through spying.

It's not so much that privacy is apple's goal, but rather privacy is inherent to apple's business model (unlike google, which has always been spyware).

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by fchicken » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:22 AM UTC

arduanika wrote: post #217

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Tapping a hardware guy as CEO sends a good signal, at least to me, looking in from the outside. The company is leading from its strength, and getting back to its roots. I wonder how Woz feels today, seeing this. But somewhere in the mix, Apple could also really use another great product mind, like the other Steve. It has been too long since the last era-defining product from Cupertino. I have no idea what that next b…

Chairman Cook was a hardware guy, and is why apple's hardware is excellent.

This just suggests him holding on to more influence. What apple needs, badly, is a software and tech guy (Cook is not a tech guy).

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by simonw » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:24 AM UTC

I appreciated John Gruber's piece on this: https://daringfireball.net/2026/04/another_day_has_come

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by duped » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:33 AM UTC

celsoazevedo wrote: post #403

ebbi wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I see this argument, it comes across as lazy. iPhone (and smartphones in general) are a mature product, so of course it'll be iterative. But you can't compare the camera from the first few iPhones to the latest ones. I certainly didn't expect, when the first iPhone launched, that the camera on an iPhone would replace my dedicated camera for 90% of my use cases.

You make a good point, but at the same time, things are a bit stale if you look outside the Apple and Samsung bubbles. For example, a Vivo X300 Ultra or Xiaomi 17 Ultra. Much better cameras, larger batteries, 90-100W charging, etc.

I think you're looking far too narrowly at technology if you view it only through the lens of a smartphone.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by sngz » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:33 AM UTC

vovavili wrote: post #337

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

>Apple software is terrible That's a wild claim.

The software is what kept me away from iphones even though I hate android hardware

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ezst » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:35 AM UTC

ValentineC wrote: post #69

necovek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

> their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! I don't know about Thinkpads, but the utterly pleasant glass trackpad is still one of the things I cannot find on most non-Mac laptops, despite every manufacturer being able to copy it for years. The closest I've found are the Surface laptop/cover tra…

I haven't used a touchpad in recent years that wasn't "good enough", I really don't obsess about those (but I acknowledge that many do here), but I profoundly dislike MacBooks' keyboards. Anyhow, let's not pretend that it matters as much as the broken mess of a desktop environment/windows manager that the OS sitting on top is.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by sam0x17 » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:44 AM UTC

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

It's really gone to shit in the last 2 years

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by isodev » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:46 AM UTC

Oh finally! Ternus is at least fun to look at during keynotes so we have that to look forward to.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ugh123 » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:47 AM UTC

w10-1 wrote: post #90

His letter (at the top of Apple's web site) is moving: https://www.apple.com/community-letter-from-tim/ I understand Tim is a logistics genius and Ternus is a hardware genius, and that we all want better software and policy from Apple, but I'm glad that there seems to be good people at the head of one of the biggest and most consequential companies, and further that they seem to care about being good people. As far a…

>but I'm glad that there seems to be good people at the head

Wonder if he'll be as good as Cook was at kissing Trump's ass. Half serious, half /s.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by DeathArrow » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 4:47 AM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

>Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around.

It used to be the other way around, nice software and mediocre hardware.