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Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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There is a video, but it doesn't demonstrate anything. Did you even watch it??

Yeah but now you can't use this reddit video as proof of voter fraud when Romney wins.

The original video isn't proof of anything but that a machine didn't work. Surprise! Not. Your video didn't prove anything. It's noise.

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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Sacrifice karma to hack undecideds

Now I'm genuinely curious - in which direction are you trying to hack undecideds?

Hack them into Democratism. Voting's closed now, so there's no use hacking right now, have to wait 4 years.

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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He says a lot of things, but amazingly only shows us the one thing that can be easily debunked as a glitch/error.

Thank you for being the voice of reason. It's a fucking calibration error. I hate sensationalism like this.

How is it a calibration error?

He clearly says he tested for calibration error, and it wasn't the case.

This is of course, we assume he's not lying.

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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With everyone and their dog carrying around a camera in their pocket by means of a cell phone? Hardly. Anyone interested in selling their vote could easily take a photo of their ballot (with some identifying info added to the photo as well to show it wasn't a copy from a friend) to prove they voted the way they were paid. Even if this theoretically did increase the chance of vote-buying, I think it's still a worthwhi…

What does it matter what the voter takes a photo of? That has no proven relationship to what bit is stored in the machine's memory.

People could falsify the ballot to the buyer.

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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I'm not trying to be snarky: could someone explain to me why this is HN-worthy (or at least worth 609 points)? In an election with thousands of voting machines, the probability is high enough that at least a few of them will be defective in some way; it should be expected as far as I can tell.

Unsubstantiated rumors of vote tampering via technological means on election night is the ultimate link-bait? Seems pretty clear why it is worth so many points :)

If only the specifications of the hardware and source for the software for the machine in question were available for us to analyze....

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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Yeah, statistically, democrats are smarter than republicans. I must be smarter than average!

Are you confused enough to think that my comment was a compliment? > Yeah, statistically, democrats are smarter than republicans. I must be smarter than average! If it makes you feel good, so be it. Please be sure to keep that cork on the fork. Quick. Since you are so smart: How many years will it take to pay off 16 trillion dollars in debt while paying interest and continuing to over-spend at a rate of over 1 trilli…

i wonder if anyone can do a historical trace on when "the debt" started becoming a political issue

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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I know that this will remain at the bottom of this thread, because it doesn't have enough conspiracy theory in it, but does anyone really think that this is actual vote tampering ? I mean, why on earth would you tamper with a voting machine so that it stuffs the ballot, but have it update the UI so that the user can see and report the error? This should fall to the way side of failing basic logic, but it doesn't beca…

There are people who are so out of touch with technology that they might not understand the (to us, incredibly obvious and clear) feedback the UI is providing, and might overlook it or be scared of pressing the screen again. Grandmothers and curmudgeons. It seems ridiculous to be unable to comprehend something that would be as familiar as using a hand calculator to people like me and you, but there are people out the…

That's not the point. Yes, there might be people who will ignore the UI feedback and cast the wrong vote. The point is that, if you're going to tamper it, you'd rather tamper the back end. As it is, if this is happening to a lot of people, many of them are bound to report it and that risk completely outweighs any gain from the "grandmother" group.

In any case, I'm skeptical of the tampering hypothesis because only one person reported and filmed it.

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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> It's hilarious when Americans use that as an excuse for things being sub-par in their country. I see it all the time for health care, roads, schools etc. I am simply providing an explanation that statistics indicates that there will be an absolute greater # of issues. I would also suggest that governing at scale is hard and doesn't seem to scale linearly; much worse, as far as I can guess, based upon my news readin…

And yet, Germany with ~80M seems to do just as well (if not better) than Australia with ~22M, or even New Zealand with ~4.5M. I didn't say it was easy, but I said it's something that should be in hand

i think geography (namely, distance) is actually the fundamental issue here

on top of geography, there is the issue that different states (in the U.S.) can have very different logistical/structural systems, different laws, different economic conditions, different budgets, etc

Re: Reddit user captures video of 2012 voting machines altering votes

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http://www.marionstar.com/article/20121031/NEWS03/310310009/...

I get this in a popup: "We hope you have enjoyed your complimentary access" and some info on becoming a subscriber. And that's the first time I've visited the site.

Then try a different browser. Tried it in 3 and got nothing like that.
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