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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by cjs_ac »

whiterose1214 wrote: post #549

Lot of discussion about different privacy laws across jurisdictions, and while I understand a lot of users have different approaches to privacy and opinions on political matters, realistically if your threat model is the NSA or some other three-letter agency: a) migrating to a different jurisdiction isn't realistically a massive barrier for them (related: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf ) b…

Yeah, sure, but this idea that the government is the threat you're defending against is very American. I'm not saying I trust my government with a lot of my personal data, but they're not the most important threat I'm defending against when I look after my privacy online.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by mixmastamyk »

whiterose1214 wrote: post #549

Lot of discussion about different privacy laws across jurisdictions, and while I understand a lot of users have different approaches to privacy and opinions on political matters, realistically if your threat model is the NSA or some other three-letter agency: a) migrating to a different jurisdiction isn't realistically a massive barrier for them (related: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf ) b…

Defeatism; alternatives don't have to be perfect to be useful. In other words, it's a journey, not a destination.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by ginko »

verisimi wrote: post #567
ginko wrote: post #559

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The European commission are appointed by the Council of the EU which is composed by elected individual member countries' heads of government. Commissioners also need to be individually approved by the European Parliament which is directly elected. Representative democracy is democracy. Basically all nation level democratic governments are representative democracies. Being a cynic doesn't make you look clever.

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I do think you're cynical and wrong if you think you can't influence any political decisions on the EU level.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by jwr »

I can recommend:

* Hetzner.de for servers (I've been using their physical servers for many years now, incredible performance per € spent)

* Fernand as your CRM, it's smooth and nice and so much better and faster than all the zendesks and freshdesks it's not even funny. (https://getfernand.com/)

* AISLER if you design electronics and need to make PCBs (https://aisler.net/)

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by mixmastamyk »

vertnerd wrote: post #32

Used Chromebooks are plentiful and cheap on eBay and many of them are easy to convert to Linux using the tools and instructions at https://docs.mrchromebox.tech/ . I used to have a house full of Chromebooks, but now all but one of them are Linux laptops. My favorite is the Acer CP713 because it comes in flavors with lots of RAM and drive space. I also prefer the convertible touchscreen models because they can go on a…

Buy and support vendors that ship proper Linux laptops. I know of Star labs and Nova Custom in the EU, both use coreboot as well.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by chucksmash »

jorvi wrote: post #556
chucksmash wrote: post #540

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Amazon also uses and contributes edits to OSM.

It doesn't matter if Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook contribute or pay huge sums. Even Apple Maps is heavily, heavily behind Google Maps simply because very few users are entering Point of Interest info into Apple Maps. New restaurant opens, or store closes, or opening hours change? Google Maps has the updated info within a few days. Apple Maps in a year or two, maybe. That's the moat. The only way either Apple or the…

> It doesn't matter if Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook contribute or pay huge sums.

It may not matter for your purposes (i.e. replacing Google-Maps-the-product in your daily use as a consumer).

I'd naively expect that having hundreds of thousands of Amazon drivers dogfooding these maps daily does help with data quality though. So maybe OSM dataset works best as a Google Maps replacement if you can shoehorn your usage into something that overlaps with the things a gigantic logistics operation cares about.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by rafram »

sofixa wrote: post #575
rafram wrote: post #557

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The far right is ascendant in Europe; obviously restrictions on speech haven't prevented that. I am Jewish, I have a strong dislike of Nazis, and yet I think Nazis legally being able to "spout Nazi ideology" is a healthy thing for our society. Criminalizing speech doesn't stop people from holding abhorrent beliefs. This is an aspect of our country that I think most Americans are proud of. Some relevant reading: https…

> yet I think Nazis legally being able to "spout Nazi ideology" is a healthy thing for our society How did that end last time? We know where it ends, we know there's nothing redeeming. Nobody needs Nazis, there is nothing to be gained by engaging with them or giving them a platform.

Weimar Germany had laws against hate speech!

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by exceptione »

frevib wrote: post #447
exceptione wrote: post #431

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> Mail is stored e2ee on server Exclusively, or do they keep caches around? I am asking since everything is clear text in the webmail. I wonder if they handle the rare case of proton to proton (encrypted) mail differently from regular unencrypted mail. I assume they have to decrypt a master key stored on the server with your password, and then decrypt every encrypted email on the fly on the server, or they have to se…

You’re post is full of misconceptions and mistakes. Mail is stored e2ee exculsively. The’ve been summoned to hand over mail many times, which they weren’t able to do. Quick search on Ecosia and find the articles. They don’t have a master key or else the whole e2ee story is a fad, which it isn’t. The Proton code is in Github so you can check how it works yourself. Part of the password is used to decrypt the data. Sear…

> They don’t have a master key or else the whole e2ee story is a fad, which it isn’t

You can store an encrypted master key (like Luks), download that key to the client and decrypt it there. Or you can have it in decrypted in server memory, but only during an interactive session with the user. But that quickly turns into a fad, as you pointed out, which was exactly my question.

> The Proton code is in Github so you can check how it works yourself. Please think and do some work before you reply.

I asked a simple question, so that at others could chime in about the exact details and limits. I don't understand why that was highly offensive to you, but I assume it is something like a Monday Mood.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by pnw »

frevib wrote: post #364
wolvoleo wrote: post #252

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Yeah I was thinking of getting infomaniak for my mail. I don't really care for the encryption thing of proton (all email comes in in plain text anyway!) and I want to just be able to do plain imap without bridges. But their stuff just feels a bit weird somehow. I didn't really want to commit yet. I'm glad to hear you had good experiences.

Proton has mail, calendar, drive, docs, sheets and more coming. Everything is done e2ee where possible. In case of mail, when the peer has no Proton, mail is indeed send plaintext. Mail is stored e2ee on server, so not even Proton can read it. Proton mail has also made PGP very easy to use. It’s Swiss based and a foundation, not a corporation. They’ve done this so they cannot easily be bought. It ticks most boxes in…

I love Proton but it's really low on usability since their calendar doesn't integrate with anything (by design). If you are used to managing a busy calendar it's quite a shock. And their docs and sheets apps are extremely minimal and basic.

And of course the recent allegations that they hand over your metadata on >90% of requests. See https://x.com/DoingFedTime/status/2030108076531995016

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by carlosjobim »

darthcloud wrote: post #213

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

Google has two products without competition: YouTube and Google Maps.

Don't waste your time trying different map services.

Everything else is super easy to switch to better alternatives, especially search, e-mail and browser.

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