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Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by duskdozer »

direwolf20 wrote: post #565
fragmede wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But unfortunately, it turns out that some people you interact with aren't actually your friend. That guy that seems totally legit and just wants your sister to install his fun little game/app that he wrote is actually trying to get her to install an app that's going to track your location and read all your messages and copy all your photos. To keep her safe from the "actually" bad people, of course.

Let's ban passwords because you could give me your password

Forced "Log in with a magic link!" wants to say hello

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by shrx »

xvilka wrote: post #556

A good opportunity to donate[1] to the GrapheneOS[2]. [1] https://grapheneos.org/donate [2] https://grapheneos.org/

As long as it will be pixel-exclusive, it will remain useless to the vast majority of android-capable phone users.

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by NewsaHackO »

whatshisface wrote: post #504
fragmede wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But unfortunately, it turns out that some people you interact with aren't actually your friend. That guy that seems totally legit and just wants your sister to install his fun little game/app that he wrote is actually trying to get her to install an app that's going to track your location and read all your messages and copy all your photos. To keep her safe from the "actually" bad people, of course.

> going to track your location and read all your messages and copy all your photos. To keep her safe from the "actually" bad people, of course. The guy's name? Google. ;-)

Actually, what Google does is totally legit because they pester you constantly about "sharing your location/photos/installing Gemini" until you accidentally press yes, and they can say they have your consent. So they are actually the good guys.

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by codethief »

rudhdb773b wrote: post #499
codethief wrote: post #204

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Strong disagree. Linux, its permission system and its (barely existent) application isolation are lightyears away from the security guarantees that Android brings.

The security of Android doesn't mean much to me as long as the front door is left open by design for Google, and therefore the government, to directly spy on you.

What front door are you referring to?

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by codethief »

apitman wrote: post #270
codethief wrote: post #204

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Strong disagree. Linux, its permission system and its (barely existent) application isolation are lightyears away from the security guarantees that Android brings.

Not lightyears. About 20 years, which is how long it took Google to pile on the mountain of complexity and inefficiency to accomplish this.

Well, we've had containers on Linux for more than a decade now and we're still nowhere near where Android was on day 1.

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by realusername »

fragmede wrote: post #500
greatgib wrote: post #180

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Even restricting the mitigation to "students and hobbyists" is bad. I should have the right to have parents, friends or anyone use a "free" store that is not under control of Google if the user and app developer wish so. But also, somehow there should be something done to avoid the monopoly forcing to use the Google services. Like major institutions like bank, gov and co being forced to provide alternatives like a we…

But unfortunately, it turns out that some people you interact with aren't actually your friend. That guy that seems totally legit and just wants your sister to install his fun little game/app that he wrote is actually trying to get her to install an app that's going to track your location and read all your messages and copy all your photos. To keep her safe from the "actually" bad people, of course.

As opposed to the Play Store where you search for "ChatGPT" and end up on a scam app which read all your messages and copy all your photos?

And that example isn't random, I just tried and the first result for me is a counterfeit app with the logo of chatgpt copied .

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by master-lincoln »

direwolf20 wrote: post #565
fragmede wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But unfortunately, it turns out that some people you interact with aren't actually your friend. That guy that seems totally legit and just wants your sister to install his fun little game/app that he wrote is actually trying to get her to install an app that's going to track your location and read all your messages and copy all your photos. To keep her safe from the "actually" bad people, of course.

Let's ban passwords because you could give me your password

That's why passkeys were introduced. Can not fish them

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by duskdozer »

ipdashc wrote: post #317
cwillu wrote: post #299

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It won't though, because there's a ecosystem of banking/insurance/whatever apps that have bought into the android/iphone lockdown mindsete that people will simply be locked out of. Open alternatives can grow when there is a viable means of slow growth, and cutting off the oxygen to such things is the implicit intent.

> banking/insurance/whatever apps I know banking apps are the typical example, but I've always wondered why. I use my bank's app maybe once or twice a year when I need to Zelle someone, which I only need to do when they don't have Venmo. (Unless we consider Venmo a banking app.) I only have one bank's app installed, the rest of my banks I only interact with over their website, on desktop. As for insurance, I've never…

Have you not had a company block you from doing something on the web and force you to use an app for it?

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by hmry »

madeofpalk wrote: post #539
WarmWash wrote: post #80

The judge told Google that Apple is not anti-competitive because Apple has no competitors on it's platform (this all stemming from the Epic lawsuits). Google listened. Blame the judge for one of the worst legal calls in recent history. Google is a monopoly and Apple is not. Simple fix for Google...

Google lost because they have all the emails colluding to prevent competition. If Google had not done that, they wouldn't have lost.

The lesson? Only discuss illegal activity in auto-delete Slack channels

Re: Keep Android Open

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Post by master-lincoln »

Aerroon wrote: post #339
ipdashc wrote: post #317

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> banking/insurance/whatever apps I know banking apps are the typical example, but I've always wondered why. I use my bank's app maybe once or twice a year when I need to Zelle someone, which I only need to do when they don't have Venmo. (Unless we consider Venmo a banking app.) I only have one bank's app installed, the rest of my banks I only interact with over their website, on desktop. As for insurance, I've never…

2FA is a requirement in Europe. I can't log into my bank account without my phone being able to run the app.

2fa does not mean smartphone. There are other variants too
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