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François Chollet, creator of ARC-AGI, has consistently said that solving the benchmark does not mean we have AGI. It has always been meant as a stepping stone to encourage progress in the correct direction rather than as an indicator of reaching the destination. That's why he is working on ARC-AGI-3 (to be released in a few weeks) and ARC-AGI-4. His definition of reaching AGI, as I understand it, is when it becomes i…

> His definition of reaching AGI, as I understand it, is when it becomes impossible to construct the next version of ARC-AGI because we can no longer find tasks that are feasible for normal humans but unsolved by AI. That is the best definition I've yet to read. If something claims to be conscious and we can't prove it's not, we have no choice but to believe it. Thats said, I'm reminded of the impossible voting tests…

So, asking an 2b parameter LLM if it is conscious and it answering yes, we have no choice but to believe it?

How about ELIZA?

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So last week I tried Gemini pro 3, Opus 4.6, GLM 5, Kimi2.5 so far using Kimi2.5 yeilded the best results (in terms of cost/performance) for me in a mid size Go project. Curious to know what others think ?

I predict Gemini Flash will dominate when you try it.

If you're going for cost performance balance choosing Gemini Pro is bewildering. Gemini Flash _outperforms_ Pro in some coding benchmarks and is the clear parento frontier leader for intelligence/cost. It's even cheaper than Kimi 2.5.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/?media-leaderboards=text-to-im...

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I feel like a luddite: unless I am running small local models, I use gemini-3-flash for almost everything: great for tool use, embedded use in applications, and Python agentic libraries, broad knowledge, good built in web search tool, etc. Oh, and it is fast and cheap. I really only use gemini-3-pro occasionally when researching and trying to better understand something. I guess I am not a good customer for super sca…

3 Flash is criminally under appreciated for its performance/cost/speed trifecta. Absolutely in a category of its own.

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Too bad we can’t use it. Whenever Google releases something, I can never seem to use it in their coding cli product.

You can but only via Gemini Ultra plan which you can buy or Gemini API with early access.

I know, and neither of these options are feasible for me. I can't get the early access and I am not willing to drop $250 in order to just try their new model. By the time I can use it, the other two companies have something similar and I lose my interest in Google's models.

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Is it me or is the rate of model release is accelerating to an absurd degree? Today we have Gemini 3 Deep Think and GPT 5.3 Codex Spark. Yesterday we had GLM5 and MiniMax M2.5. Five days before that we had Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3. Then maybe two weeks I think before that we had Kimi K2.5.

More focus has been put on post-training recently. Where a full model training run can take a month and often requires multiple tries because it can collapse and fail, post-training is don't on the order of 5 or 6 days.

My assumption is that they're all either pretty happy with their base models or unwilling to do those larger runs, and post-training is turning out good results that they release quickly.

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Always the same with Google. Gemini has been way behind from the start. They use the firehose of money from search to make it as close to free as possible so that they have some adoption numbers. They use the firehose from search to pay for tons of researchers to hand hold academics so that their non-economic models and non-economic test-time-compute can solve isolated problems. It's all so tiresome. Try making model…

I'm sorry but this is an insane take. Flash is leading its category by far. Absolutely destroys sonnet, 5.2 etc in both perf and cost.

Pro still leads in visual intelligence.

The company that most locks away their gold is Anthropic IMO and for good reason, as Opus 4.6 is expensive AF

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I don't think so; there are different lunar calendars.

If that's a sole problem, it should be called "Chinese-Japanese-Korean-whateverelse new year" instead. Maybe "East Asian new year" for short. (Not that there are absolutely no discrepancies within them, but they are so similar enough that new year's day almost always coincide.)

It's not Japanese either.

This non-problem sounds like it's on the same scale as "The British Isles", a term which is mildly annoying to Irish people but in common use everywhere else.

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it is interesting that the video demo is generating .stl model. I run a lot of tests of LLMs generating OpenSCAD code (as I have recently launched https://modelrift.com text-to-CAD AI editor) and Gemini 3 family LLMs are actually giving the best price-to-performance ratio now. But they are very, VERY far from being able to spit out a complex OpenSCAD model in one shot. So, I had to implement a full fledged "screensho…

Hey, my 9 year old son uses modelrift for creating things for his 3d printer, its great! Product feedback: 1. You should probably ask me to pay now, I feel like i've used it enough. 2. You need a main dashboard page with a history of sessions. He thought he lost a file and I had to dig in the billing history to get a UUID I thought was it and generate the url. I would say naming sessions is important, and could be do…

Thank you for this feedback, very valuable! I am using Bambu as well - perfect to get things printed without much hassle. Not sure if direct push to printer is possible though, as their ecosystem looks pretty closed. It would be a perfect use case - if we could use ModelRift to design a model on a mobile phone and push to print..

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it is interesting that the video demo is generating .stl model. I run a lot of tests of LLMs generating OpenSCAD code (as I have recently launched https://modelrift.com text-to-CAD AI editor) and Gemini 3 family LLMs are actually giving the best price-to-performance ratio now. But they are very, VERY far from being able to spit out a complex OpenSCAD model in one shot. So, I had to implement a full fledged "screensho…

I was looking for your GitHub, but the link on the homepage is broken: https://github.com/modelrift

right, I need to fix this one
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