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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#581

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

First time hearing about this project and it feels mature. However, the landing page example of the app on web is…messy and noisy to the point i am totally lost. This is not the case for slack or discord. I think having an awesome clean first impression would do wonders to sell what younare doing.

Can you give more specific feedback -- what specifically are you looking at, and what specifically do you think contributes to it being noisy?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#582

I deleted my Facebook account in 2011. After finding out how much critical neighborhood information I have been missing, I finally registered a new Facebook account fifteen years later to follow my neighborhood groups. A month later, the account was suspended for supposedly breaking guidelines. I never posted a single message, never reacted to any posts. They then required me to upload a video scan of my face to prov…

Do you not buy/sell on marketplace? I guess this might be a wrong website to ask such questions.

I browsed for a while but didn’t see anything worthwhile.

I’ve had friends coordinate for me in the past for a couple things but honestly eBay is still my go to.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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post #554

I'll hardly miss using Discord, but if this isn't going to be a wake-up call to ALL (mainly) open-source projects using it, then we're all doomed. We should seriously go back to mailing lists and IRC as a standard for OSS. Everything else should be viewed as disposable.

And websites that are not SPAs in disguise.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#585

https://keet.io is this industry's best kept secret. Encypted p2p chat with audio and video, no signups, it just works. My kids and their friends switched from Discord to Keet to avoid all the signup / authentication friction.

Is it open source?

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#586

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

> Given current events in the USA,

This part absolutely isn't necessary because it's a wrong idea no matter who is in charge.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#587
Sorry, the era of free communication is fading. Across middle powers, developed countries, and increasingly North America, governments are tightening the rules around online speech—and often jawboning platforms into going further than the law strictly requires. The list of examples is so long I can’t even begin to type them all.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#588

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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It is a great irony that the heavy handed push for "protect da kids" is all happening while we learn, day by day, that the richest and most powerful members of our society have no problem hanging out with a convicted child sex trafficker. Rules for thee, free love for me.

These are literally _the same people_. Musk was hanging out with child sex trafficker and is allowing kids to create porn with grok on X.

Funny how all of you guys focus on Musk but no mention of Reid Hoffman anywhere who was far more involved with Epstein.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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post #567

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Glad to hear E2EE is coming soon, but it’s been “soon” for probably a year now. It’s a bit odd that encrypted notifications still don’t work, and I’d argue it’s a very big caveat with regard to privacy and security. Our main reason for using Zulip is that we work in a highly regulated space (healthcare) and would like to be able to safely talk about things. I suspect this sort of situation is a major motivator for Zu…

(There has always been an option to just not include message content in mobile notifications).

Cryptography is not something you can do sloppily, and requires coordination between the mobile and server teams. Zulip 11.x included the protocol, but while doing the mobile implementation, we decided to make several more changes which have delayed it to the upcoming Zulip 12.0.

Some important context is that we retired the old React Native mobile app this summer in favor of the new Flutter apps (https://blog.zulip.com/2025/06/17/flutter-mobile-app-launche...), which has been an enormous improvement in the quality of the app and developer experience.

But as you can imagine, the cutover and relentlessly addressing feedback after it took a lot of time for the mobile team. We've also experienced an AI slop bombardment in the last few months that has consumed a lot of time. I'll save that story for another time.

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