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ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by sixothree »

ciupicri wrote: post #398
neilv wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That questionable-sounding stunt by the media outlet wasn't comparable: Google/Alphabet knows much more about individuals than addresses, salary, and political donations. Google/Alphabet knows quite a lot about your sentiments, what information you've seen, your relationships, who can get to you, who you can get to, your hopes and fears, your economic situation, your health conditions, assorted kompromat, your moveme…

OG = Original Gangster?

It's mostly meaning "original". The OG XBox for example.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by trinsic2 »

steve-atx-7600 wrote: post #529
tombert wrote: post #264

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> This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agency with, apparently, no accountability for following the law at all. Apparently any time they do anything horrifying, they will just declare that victim as a "terrorist" or something, and their sycophantic supporters will happily agree. What I find amusing is that when the Snowden leaks happened and I would discuss it, when I said something like…

Yes, exactly. But, I’ll admit it took me until the republican primary before the 2016 election for this to register in my mind. I was born in the US in the 80s & fell into the “what you see is all there is” bias (and hadn’t read enough history before then either). Another opinion that I’m sure will get me downvoted is that this is the primary reason I support gun ownership by private citizens. I think having a chance…

> Bottom line is that human nature has not changed. Some of us westerners take comfortable lives for granted because we’ve been lucky.

Which I bet our luck has run out. This year and the next 5 or 10 years from now, its going to be really bad.

I don't even trust local state governments at this point.. It all seems like a big ploy on the people to keep the grift going.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by tga_d »

sgc wrote: post #515
jorts wrote: post #507

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It was probably a decade ago and I recall using something within Google that would tell you about who they thought you were. It profiled me as a middle eastern middle aged man or something like that which was… way off.

If I were extremely cynical, I would suspect they might have intentionally falsified that response to make it seem like they were more naive than they actually were.

I suspect the more likely scenario is they don't actually care how accurate these nominal categorizations are. The information they're ultimately trying to extract is, given your history, how likely you are to click through a particular ad and engage in the way the advertiser wants (typically buying a product), and I would be surprised if the way they calculate that was human interpretable. In the Facebook incident where they were called out for intentionally targeting ads at young girls who were emotionally vulnerable, Facebook clarified that they were merely pointing out to customers that this data was available to Facebook, and that advertisers couldn't intentionally use it.[0] Of course, the result is the same, the culpability is just laundered through software, and nobody can prove it's happening. The winks and nudges from Facebook to its clients are all just marketing copy, they don't know whether these features are invisibly determined any more than we do. Similarly, your Google labels may be, to our eyes, entirely inaccurate, but the underlying data that populates them is going to be effective all the same.

[0] https://about.fb.com/news/h/comments-on-research-and-ad-targ...

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by acdha »

libpcap wrote: post #308

Immigration laws, like any other laws, need to be enforced, right?

There’s a lot more nuance than might be obvious at first thought. For example, many of the people being violently deported now came here legally, followed the rules, and are now being targeted because their protected status or asylum cases were cancelled under highly suspicious circumstances, with a lot of the rush being to get them out of the country before the shady revocations are reviewed.

We also have a lot of inconsistent enforcement because some employers love having workers who can be mistreated under the threat of calling ICE. If we really wanted to lower immigration, we’d require companies to verify status for everyone they hire. You can see how this works in Texas where they’ve had a ton of bills requiring that get killed by Republican leadership on behalf of major donors:

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/06/05/texas-e-verify-requi...

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by trinsic2 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #340
whatshisface wrote: post #187

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It is not you who plants weeds in the garden but the wind, but the wind won't weed them back out again.

A valid perspective, and I agree that a democracy only works as long as its citizens remain civically engaged. Unfortunately, I think it's too late for the US in its current form, and it might not be long before we see it split up into smaller regions, unless something suddenly kicks Congress into gear and people break ranks to impeach and disparage the Trump administration.

Its never too late, eventually things will turn and when that happens, you will be in either the right position, or the wrong position, depending on your actions.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by hackable_sand »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #574
hackable_sand wrote: post #435

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You want us to hide in our own country?

It's becoming worse on a daily basis. People are starting to get angry and if enough people are angry, this will lead to either government change or repression. If it's repression, you're not ready for what's coming.

Okay

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by trinsic2 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #505
soulofmischief wrote: post #147

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It's disingenuous to say Americans are "allowing" themselves to do anything in the face of countless, relentless, multi-billion corporate campaigns, designed by teams of educated individuals, to make them think and act in specific ways.

>to make them think and act in specific ways. with the kind of images that are out in the open for everybody with their own eyes to see, if that does not move you in your heart of hearts, where no government or anyone else can touch you, there is something rotten in that person. Governments and authority figures can show you a lot of things but the amount of people who not just accept it, but gleefully celebrate the…

Yeah those guys, I think you are talking about Manga, They are not Christians, they are just using that as cover for already poisoned hearts.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by giancarlostoro »

jorts wrote: post #507
neilv wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That questionable-sounding stunt by the media outlet wasn't comparable: Google/Alphabet knows much more about individuals than addresses, salary, and political donations. Google/Alphabet knows quite a lot about your sentiments, what information you've seen, your relationships, who can get to you, who you can get to, your hopes and fears, your economic situation, your health conditions, assorted kompromat, your moveme…

It was probably a decade ago and I recall using something within Google that would tell you about who they thought you were. It profiled me as a middle eastern middle aged man or something like that which was… way off.

I think you're on about the ad preferences settings or whatever? I usually wipe those.
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