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Take an empty, open water bottle through security and then fill it up at the free water fountains!
There is often no free water.
Which airports?
Heathrow scraps liquid container limit
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#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder how many actual terrorists they pick up for saying "I'm here for terrorism" Its like those stupid questions on US immigration forms, e.g. "Do you intend to engage in the United States in Espionage ?" or "Did you ever order, incite or otherwise participate in the persecution of any person ?" It's like, really ? Do they seriously think someone who should answer yes will really answer yes ? Might as well just…
> It's like, really ? Do they seriously think someone who should answer yes will really answer yes ? No, they do not think anyone will check 'Yes' to that box. The purpose of the box is that it's a crime to lie when someone checks 'No', and that tends to be an easy charge to bring. So, the purpose of the form is to generate convictions for lying on the form.
Wouldn't it be easier to make those things illegal and then prosecute them instead of the lie? For prosecuting a lie you need to prove 2 things, the thing lied about and the lie itself, so it seems like a more difficult prosecution for no reason. Also how does every other country in the world manage to not have these questions?
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#583There is something I never understood: what if multiple people carry the limit of "explosive/flammable" liquid allowed and combine it inside the plane?
Defense in depth.
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#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be nice if there was an option to box it up and mail it back home or to a friend/family member for a fee. While a lot of people have throw away knives and wouldn’t care, many also have knives that are either expensive or have a lot of meaning. Maybe they would encourage more people to risk it and hope they don’t get caught, but a vast majority of these people aren’t criminals. When I was a kid I would always…
You can still do that if you check a bag instead of carrying it on, of course.
That is a significant amount of hassle over something so small.
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The alternative is not charging. JFK somehow manages. Yes there's traffic, but it keeps slowly moving.
JFK is pure hell compared to Heathrow, never mind to an actually well-run airport. I'll stick to paying for my externalities.
I have three major airports in reasonable driving distance. None of them charge money to pick up or drop off at the terminal. It works fine.
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#586Still not allowed to bring in food, but now allowed to bring in unlimited soup? Ridiculous
Where were you prohibited from bringing in food?
> Many agriculture products are prohibited entry into the United States from certain countries because they may carry plant pests and foreign animal diseases.
> Prohibited or restricted items may include meats, fresh fruits and vegetables, plants, seeds, soil and products made from animal or plant materials.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/agricultur...
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's about making people feel safe. We're not rational beings, so what do you do about an irrational fear? You invent a magical thing that protects from that irrational fear. You're orders of magnitude more likely to die in a road accident, but people don't fear that. They fear terrorist attacks far more. You can't protect against an opponent who's motivated to learn the inherent vulnerabilities of our systems, many…
> It's about making people feel safe. I don't think that's a common perception of airport security. Few people take reassurance from it, most consider it a burden and hindrance that could stop them getting their flight if they don't perform the correct steps as instructed. The lifting of this restriction is an example, the overwhelming response is "oh thank goodness, now I don't have to pay for overpriced water" and…
Regular passengers tend to be the ones care about the price of water in the terminal while rare/first time passengers tend to be the ones nervous as hell about everything from getting the bags checked in to the engines falling off the plane during takeoff/landing.
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#588This just adds confusion as to the purpose of all this. The motivation behind the liquid limits is that there are extremely powerful explosives that are stable water-like liquids. Average people have never heard of them because they aren’t in popular lore. There has never been an industrial or military use, solids are simpler. Nonetheless, these explosives are easily accessible to a knowledgeable chemist like me. The…
If I recall correctly, it was WIDELY reported by sane, savvy people that no such liquid agents existed that could be combined onboard in this way.
Are there examples you can point to?
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do that all the time in certain airports when the drop off is essentially empty with 0 line but pickup is a half mile row of cars.
Kinda antisocial. If everyone acted like you the drop off would be clogged as well and some people would miss their flights.
The drop off is frequently clogged anyway so you have to plan for that. Where I'm at the airport will advise the use of the opposite one if things back up. Early in the morning the departures sign will suggest using arrivals if you see traffic backing up and vice versa in the evening.
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#590Earlier quoted context omitted.
JFK is pure hell compared to Heathrow, never mind to an actually well-run airport. I'll stick to paying for my externalities.
I have three major airports in reasonable driving distance. None of them charge money to pick up or drop off at the terminal. It works fine.
And what's your experience of other world airports? Have you been to Heathrow? What about somewhere like Changi? It's not just the dropoff that sucks at JFK.
Public realm is almost universally terrible in America because Americans rarely leave and don't experience anything better. It's bad, actually, to wait in traffic for a large portion of your life.
See also: the revolt over NYC congestion pricing. The congestion fee in Manhattan should be $50 or more.