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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by csomar »

AngryData wrote: post #409
bookofjoe wrote: post #251

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99% of the population hasn't a clue what Discord is/does

I think the only people who don't know what discord anymore is the 50+ crowd. Atleast 50% of the randos I talk with online have discord as their preferred method for texting and voice communication and immediately want to switch to it if possible. And if older people actually cared about doxxing themselves with every conversation they would probably have a higher percentage too.

He is not wrong though a bit off. Discord has 200MAU. So 97% of the global population probably have no idea what Discord is.

People massively underestimate the scale of whatsapp/facebook/tiktok (billions of MAU)

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Post by schuylerlarson »

chrchr wrote: post #293
cookiengineer wrote: post #278

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I had a very interesting discussion with a friend today, where I was talking to her about the /r/golang thread about Rob Pike's comments to OpenAI and how the thread was full of bots talking with other bots. No idea why the density of bots was so high in that thread, it was kind of absurd to see. Then she said: "I know nobody that comments on online forums. Nobody would ever comment to strangers on the internet. It's…

But your friend is wrong. She does know at least one person who comments on online forums. I bet she knows more too.

Completely agree. Look at some videos on YouTube. 20,000 comments on brand new videos sometimes. A lot of good people are commenting on the internet. The problem is that the trust in public institutions is at an all time low, and that is leading to much more doom and gloom and those of us who are from the 2000s can feel the difference in the comment sections.

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Post by noisy_boy »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

Maybe magnifying the puck could be a good use case for AR glasses

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Post by geysersam »

nostrademons wrote: post #160
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

> If everybody bought only what they needed and ignored all the advertisements, our present level of economic activity would plunge.

Why would it plunge instead of re-focusing on things that are intrinsically important?

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Post by germinalphrase »

zuminator wrote: post #385
pesus wrote: post #322

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I don't think the vibe shift they're describing has fully taken place yet, but I think the foundations have been laid and it's started. It's probably going to be a while and take further societal changes to fully come into fruition, though.

AR glasses coupled with a sophisticated input device (fingertap? tounguetap?) will eventually be able to fully replace a touchscreen interface. And from then on it'll eventually become dated and rude to resort to pulling out touch screens during a social event. Mind you, inconsiderate people will be as distracted as ever, and will continue to halfheartedly pretend they're listening to those around them. They'll just…

…”a sophisticated input device (fingertap? tounguetap?)”

My money is on subvocalization.

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Post by badc0ffee »

AngryData wrote: post #409
bookofjoe wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of the population hasn't a clue what Discord is/does

I think the only people who don't know what discord anymore is the 50+ crowd. Atleast 50% of the randos I talk with online have discord as their preferred method for texting and voice communication and immediately want to switch to it if possible. And if older people actually cared about doxxing themselves with every conversation they would probably have a higher percentage too.

I'm (barely) under 50, but I kind of hate it. I have no idea how to handle the un-threaded flood of messages, and much prefer something like Reddit, message boards, or even FB groups. I felt the same way about IRC back in the day and never got into it.

I use Slack at work, but at least there I have a workable plan: no notifications for most channels, read or at least skim all messages in every channel by EOD, don't read it outside of business hours unless I get a DM. Also, absolutely never join the chatty #random type channels.

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Post by ethbr1 »

deaux wrote: post #543
xbmcuser wrote: post #520

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Most of her friends are probably women. Try making an account with an obvious female name and you will see a marked difference on most social platforms I am saying this as a guy we really don't understand the world women live in online or offline.

Over the whole population, I bet the difference between sexes is very small when it comes to what % posts online comment. You're saying "most social platforms" - what's the biggest one in the world? Probably still Facebook. Yet I'm fairly sure it has a higher female than male DAU, at least in the West. r/kpop has 3 million subscribers . Take a look at the most followed accounts on Instagram. How many of them have fem…

Parent was saying that most men don't understand the amount of casual sexual harassment women are subjected to in unmoderated online spaces -- much more so than men receive.

Which makes me sad.

Apparently Y chromosome + enculturation = prerogative to send unsolicited photos of ones genitalia to random internet strangers.

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Post by rendaw »

safety1st wrote: post #564
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #43

I think the author intended the title to be, "Google Ads is dead, Where do I promote my business now?" When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief). They mention running ads on tiktok or instagram but no mention of youtube ads... Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful. So my next steps would be, Reddit Ads Youtube Ads Instagram Ads Increase…

I think he's aimed in the right direction with the observation about short videos. I tried to load his website. It took a full minute to come up. Maybe that's the HN hug of death or something, but this is surely issue #1 to resolve. Beyond that I would ask whether targeting the "young'uns" directly is the correct strategy. His business is party entertainment, kids' birthday parties could be the biggest slice of that,…

It loaded in far less than a second for me, almost immediate.

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Post by ethbr1 »

hyperadvanced wrote: post #502
mjevans wrote: post #468

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The idea that everyone has only one identity, one whole, is harmful. People change over time. People change even a little based on who's around them. Even memories change as people see things in new lights. The Internet of the late 90s and early 2000s was spectacular in that everyone could be as authentic and deep as they wanted to be, and as shallow and invisible as they wanted to be depending on context. Firefox? W…

You could argue (it certainly has been argued) that the ability for technology to dissolve the usually more coherent identities that we take on daily by granting unlimited role play, trolling, and exploration is simply too much for a lot of people, and makes it hard to maintain a coherent sense of self. This is especially true of people who are “internet addicts” - not that the designation means a whole lot as I’m he…

There's also the inconvenient truth that a very specific part of the world was online in the 1990s.

Primarily more educated, more liberal, more wealthy.

Turns out, when you hook the rest of the planet online, you get mass persuasion campaigns, fake genocide "reporting", and enough of an increase in ambient noise that coherent anonymous discourse becomes impossible.

I mean, look at the comments on Fox News or political YouTube videos. That's the real average level of discussion.

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