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Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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468 comments.... guys, guys, this is a Blue Sky post! Have we not learned that anyone who self-exiled to Blue Sky is wearing a "don't take me seriously" badge for our convenience?

Also, this is old_man_yells_at_cloud.jpg. The old man is Rob Pike (almost 70 years old) and the cloud is well.... The Cloud.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

#582

Big vibe shift against AI right now among all the non-tech people I know (and some of the tech people). Ignoring this reaction and saying "it's inevitable/you're luddites" (as I'm seeing in this thread) is not going to help the PR situation

Fortunately, the PR situation will handle itself. Someone will create a superhuman persuasion engine, AGI will handle it itself, and/or those who don't adapt will fade away into irrelevance. You either surf this wave or get drowned by it, and a whole lot of people seem to think throwing tantrums is the appropriate response. Figure out how to surf, and fast. You don't even need to be good, you just have to stay on the…

This is cope.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not. You feel obligated to send a thank you, but don't want to put forth any effort, hence giving the task to someone, or in this case, something else. No different than an CEO telling his secretary to send an anniversary gift to his wife.

Which is also a thoughtless, dick move.

That would be yes. What about a token return gift to another business that you actually hate the ceo of but have to send it anyway due to political reasons?

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it obvious? It's not a thank-you letter. It's preying on creators who feel their contributions are not recognized enough. Out of all letters, at least some of the contributors will feel good about it, and share it on social media, hopefully saying something good about it because it reaffirms them. It's a marketing stunt, meaningless.

Exactly. If you're so grateful, mail in a cheque.

If I were some major contributor to the software world, I would not want a cheque from some AI company.

(by the way, I love the idea of AI! Just don't like what they did with it)

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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What is going through the mind of someone who sends an AI-generated thank-you letter instead of writing it themselves? How can you be grateful enough to want to send someone such a letter but not grateful enough to write one?

“If I automate this with AI, it can send thousands of these. That way, if just a few important people post about it, the advertising will more than pay for itself.” In the words of Gene Wilder in Blazing Saddles, “You know … idiots.”

Mel Brooks wrote those words.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Did Google, the company currently paying Rob Pike's extravagant salary, just start building data centers in 2025? Before 2025 was Google's infra running on dreams and pixie farts with baby deer and birdies chirping around? Why are the new data centers his company is building suddenly "raping the planet" and "unrecyclable"?

Someone making a complain does not imply that they were ok with it prior to the complaint. Why are you muddying the waters?

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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post #227

What is going through the mind of someone who sends an AI-generated thank-you letter instead of writing it themselves? How can you be grateful enough to want to send someone such a letter but not grateful enough to write one?

it was a PR stunt. I think it was probably largely well-received except by a few like this.

Somehow I doubt it. Getting such an email from a human is one thing, because humans actually feel gratitude. I don't think LLMs feel gratitude, so seeing them express gratitude is creepy and makes me questions the motives of the people running the experiment (though it does sound like an interesting experiment. I'm going to read more about it.)

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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It's hard to realize that the thing you've spent decades of your life working on can be done by a robot. It's quite dehumanizing. I'm sure it felt the same way to shoemakers.

I think you'd be surprised then to know that shoes are not generally made with robots.

Factories have made mass production possible, but there are still tons of humans in there pushing parts through sewing machines by hand.

Industrial automation for non uniform shapes and fiddly bits is expensive, much cheaper to just offshore the factory and hire desperately poor locals to act like robots.

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The thing that drives me crazy is that it isn't even clear if AI is providing economic value yet (am I missing something there?). Right now trillions of dollars are being spent on a speculative technology that isn't benefitting anyone right now. The messaging from AI companies is "we're going to cure cancer" and "you're going to live to be 150 years old" (I don't believe these claims!). The messaging should be "every…

Are you waiting for things to get cheaper? Have you been around the last 20 years or so? Nothing gets cheaper for consumers in a capitalist society. I remember in Canada, in 2001 right when americans were at war with the entire middle east and gas prices for the first time went over a dollar a litre. People kept saying that it was understandable that it affected gas prices because the supply chain got more expensive.…

Except petrol is significantly cheaper than it was once you account for inflation.
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