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Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by mike-cardwell »

uberman wrote: post #535
mike-cardwell wrote: post #464

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> I don't want to pay for your fantasy of going to sleep in your car and waking up someplace new So vote with your wallet. And take a bus.

You're suggesting that the only alternative to autonomous self-driving cars is public transit? By the way, I do vote with my wallet. I won't buy a car that has these features. I won't buy a car that serves me ads. I won't buy a car that charges a subscription fee. However, this is becoming increasingly challenging. Most luxury vehicle manufacturers want to pad their bottom lines by charging a premium or worse a subsc…

> You're suggesting that the only alternative to autonomous self-driving cars is public transit?

No. But hopefully one day. I don't mind if you want to subsidise my choice or not. I want self driving tech to get to the point that it is safer than manually driven cars, and I then want people who want to still drive manually to be slowly priced off the roads and then outright banned from doing it.

My preference is that you stop being allowed to drive manually, and as far as I can see, that's the future, as long as the technology works out.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by dyauspitr »

LoganDark wrote: post #370
staticshock wrote: post #356

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Direct quote from RJ Scaringe, founder/CEO of Rivian: > This is a decision. It's generated, I said there's many millions of decisions, many of them will never get noticed and they're just under the surface. One of those decisions that's been noticed quite a bit is the fact that we've intentionally not included CarPlay in the vehicle. And that's not to say we don't think a close partnership with Apple is important. So…

Rivian's infotainment system uses Google Maps which I am not a big fan of. I wish they would support CarPlay in addition to everything else, so that I wouldn't lose my maps.

Ah that was actually my main concern. I don’t think a lack of CarPlay would be a dealbreaker for me if they have inbuilt Google Maps.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by trhway »

roguecoder wrote: post #568
pastel8739 wrote: post #168

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> This might turn big suburbs from food/culture deserts into the default places people want to live as they have more space for cheaper This will certainly not happen. The reason these places are culture and food deserts is precisely because people drive everywhere and the driving infrastructure requires so much space that it is impossible to have density at the levels needed to support culture.

Even just paying for the roads for these cars to drive on is a challenge with the lack-of-density they require. So many suburbs with large lot sizes just learn to live with the potholes.

that is until autonomous pothole-fixers. Just the other way, looking at the Waymo driving by and with me doing small autonomy myself i was wondering what niche they leave for me, and looking at the road i thought that autonomous pothole-fixers is going to be multi-trillion business.

People writing in other comments about cost of roads, new and repair - it all will change with autonomous road paving hardware.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by thedougd »

staticshock wrote: post #356
diddid wrote: post #354

Interesting contrast to all this tech is that my wife liked the Rivian, but when I told her they won’t do car play that interest went to 0. Can CarPlay not play nice with these things or do they want to keep all the tech dollars to themselves?

Direct quote from RJ Scaringe, founder/CEO of Rivian: > This is a decision. It's generated, I said there's many millions of decisions, many of them will never get noticed and they're just under the surface. One of those decisions that's been noticed quite a bit is the fact that we've intentionally not included CarPlay in the vehicle. And that's not to say we don't think a close partnership with Apple is important. So…

You'll need to spend an additional $1500 over 10 years for Rivian Connect+ to use music streaming services on their infotainment system. No additional cellular costs for using CarPlay or Android Auto.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by SoftTalker »

dyauspitr wrote: post #583
LoganDark wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rivian's infotainment system uses Google Maps which I am not a big fan of. I wish they would support CarPlay in addition to everything else, so that I wouldn't lose my maps.

Ah that was actually my main concern. I don’t think a lack of CarPlay would be a dealbreaker for me if they have inbuilt Google Maps.

I prefer Google Maps. Apple Maps lead me astray too often and though they are better than they used to be they still give weird directions (such as using more obscure state route names for roads rather than the dominant Interstate Higway name).

CarPlay would be a complete non-issue for me, its absence would even be a positive. I just use my phone anyway; integrating it with the car is just added hassle and one less thing I have to worry about remaining compatible 5-10 years from now.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by rangestransform »

llbeansandrice wrote: post #238
hcurtiss wrote: post #224

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Public transit is a dream turned nightmare consistently for seventy-five years. Autonomy will be less efficient -- but not that much less efficient given closer car spacing, speed, and remote parking -- but it will be spectacularly more convenient and comfortable. I'm all for it. You'll survive the tire pollution.

> You'll survive the tire pollution. I tend to expect better from HN commenters. I don't have an interest in having a discussion with such a callous and dismissive comment. I hope your day gets better. Tire pollution is worse than tailpipe emissions and the full effects aren't known. You're dismissive of other people's and the environment's health and you're wrong. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/03/…

Have you thought about how much brake dust subway riders breathe in? At least I can buy a car with a hepa filter

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-07/new-york-...

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by rangestransform »

barnas2 wrote: post #461
wongarsu wrote: post #460

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In the next step, somebody will notice that many people drive to the same destination (like a large shopping mall or an airport) and try to offer to take them in the same self-driving car for a discount. Over time those vehicles might grow to seat as may as 30-100 people and stop at multiple destinations

Incredible startup idea. While we wait for the self driving tech, maybe we could pay specially trained people to drive these vehicles?

Labour is over 50% of the cost for the MTA, we could run more routes and shorter headways with autonomy

Who am I kidding, the NYC unions would rather burn down waymos than accept autonomy

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by teach »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #152
plebianRube wrote: post #146

In the future, we could use some sort of traffic management system, were cars which conform to a standard are able to 'link-up' and move as one unit like a train, it would relieve alot of the stop and go and improve flow on congested roads, possibly with denser traffic. I'd bet alot of daily commuters woild subscribe to something like that.

That was planned a very long time ago. It was too early, and we completely squandered it. Now the spectrum allocated for V2V it is gone. https://www.butzel.com/alert-The-Latest-Development-in-the-S...

Yeah, I saw a demo of this in a robotics lab at my local university like 20+ years ago and thought full self-driving was right around the corner.

It will probably EVENTUALLY show up, but I'm thinking it's more like decades away at this point.

Re: Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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Post by testing22321 »

bluGill wrote: post #546
testing22321 wrote: post #104

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Because it’s not convenient enough, and too expensive. Fix those two and personal car ownership will plummet in many places. Many people don’t want to own a car, pay for insurance, gas, tires, oil changes, parking, washing etc. Car ownership sucks horribly for most people, it’s just currently the best option. That will change.

> pay for insurance, gas, tires, oil changes, parking, washing etc. If you use a car you are paying for those costs. There is no getting around it. If you uber it is indirect, but part of your costs per ride is going to those things. Renting a car gets someone else to do them - but you are paying them to do that somehow. (self driving make trade parking for gas where parking is expensive, so in the densits areas this…

> If you use a car you are paying for those costs

Yes, but I don’t use my car 24/7.

Soon I won’t have to pay for it when I’m not using it.

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