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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by modeless »

Aurornis wrote: post #536
h14h wrote: post #123

I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories…

> I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. Since you’re the target audience, I’ll ask you: How do you envision you’ll work through all of the captured notes? Do it all at the end of the day? Go back and look for something after you remember making the note? I’m wondering if this product will…

This is the perfect device for me. What I do now is I have an Android quick settings button that opens an email to myself. I jot down a few notes per day and they end up in my inbox. I triage them later whenever I process my inbox. My ideal way for this ring to work is that it would do exactly the same, but without typing. I agree that if the notes are siloed in a separate app then I might ignore them, so I hope that I can get them as emails in my inbox by default.

I also want it to have the additional capability of setting time-based or geofence reminders, timers, alarms, and calendar events. It will be incredibly useful for me to be able to, while I'm driving to work, say "remind me to take out the garbage when I get home" or whatever. You'd expect Siri or Google Assistant to be able to do this and in theory they can but in practice they suck for this use case.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by [deleted] »

Fnoord wrote: post #450
cxr wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The remarks in this comment can only come from a gross misunderstanding of what many people mean when they talk about avoiding use of their phones around their kids. Almost every sentence reveals a very me-focused outlook. > It isn't about using your phone less in front of your kids. It is about being there for your kids when they need you That's a very narrow conception if the problem—it isn't solely about being "th…

You supposedly speak for masses and claim I am having some exceptional, unique look but you don't cite anything to support your claim. > That's a very narrow conception if the problem—it isn't solely about being "there" for them or trying to get control over (and maintain control over) one's own addictions. The main thing that people have an issue with when they talk about kids and phone use (and TV for that matter)…

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by gffrd »

rbits wrote: post #377
modeless wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people who are probably OK with ordering Doordash once in a while are up in arms about a disposable device that weighs a couple of grams, lasts for years, and is recycled. You can easily spend more on a single Doordash meal for two people and I guarantee a few Doordash meals have more impact on the environment than this minuscule device ever could.

I doubt it's about the environmental impact. I agree that the environmental impact probably isn't that bad. My biggest concern is that it's $75 USD (plus shipping, presumably), and if the company ever goes under it's now worthless because I can't get a new one. That said, if I assume that the company will last long enough, I think $75 USD is worth it even if I only get to use it for 4 years. Although if I end up buil…

> if the company ever goes under it's now worthless because I can't get a new one.

I don't understand this logic.

Do you not go to a restaurant because there's a chance they won't be around in 4 years when you might want to dine there again?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by gffrd »

modeless wrote: post #253
h14h wrote: post #123

I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried. The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories…

I don't understand why people who are probably OK with ordering Doordash once in a while are up in arms about a disposable device that weighs a couple of grams, lasts for years, and is recycled. You can easily spend more on a single Doordash meal for two people and I guarantee a few Doordash meals have more impact on the environment than this minuscule device ever could.

I'm with you.

This thing costs $75. Over 4 years, that's $0.05 a day. Let's say you're 40 and plan to buy these until you die at 80. We'll pretend inflation doesn't exist: $750 for 40 years of use.

It feels like backward objection handling where people can't find a use case for something, but feel like they should, so invent a totally irrational objection to it.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by gffrd »

scratchyone wrote: post #396
modeless wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people who are probably OK with ordering Doordash once in a while are up in arms about a disposable device that weighs a couple of grams, lasts for years, and is recycled. You can easily spend more on a single Doordash meal for two people and I guarantee a few Doordash meals have more impact on the environment than this minuscule device ever could.

personally, i worry about what happens when it doesn't last for years. a software bug causes high power draw, or you set your ring down and something gets pushed against the recording button for a few hours, or you fall asleep laying on it. given it only has a 15-hour recording life, this happening just once could be the end of your $75 device

My guess: they send you a new one.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by maxkfranz »

erohead wrote: post #65

(Pebble founder) Happy to answer any questions you have!

As you framed the device as an extension of memory, I'm wondering whether you can query your notes/memory with voice. I'd like to ask questions to the ring, e.g.: "What was that book that Jerry recommended?"

Is that an existing feature, or is that something possibly planned for future?

Best of luck with your project, Eric.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by dangus »

embedding-shape wrote: post #523
dangus wrote: post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m fully aware that the context is about the regulation. But this thread is like pointing out that the cybertruck doesn’t meet EU regulations. It doesn’t matter because the truck is a sales disaster in its most potent market and will probably be discontinued.

Ok, so the discussion isn't interesting to you because you think another thing will make the second thing irrelevant. But obviously discussing the second thing has value, regardless of your personal opinion, so why don't you just stay out of the topic instead of trying to change it to something else?

Now you’ve started the meta-topic of my change in topic. This is illegal because your royal decree said that topics can’t change or evolve at all.

I propose we change the subject to how you’re the king of this website and you alone determine the topic of discussion. Would that be okay with you, Dear Leader?

This issue of replaceable battery is not only irrelevant because the product is going to fail, it’s irrelevant because it clearly complies with EU law. If it doesn’t you have to explain how the Apple Watch is legal in Europe with a battery that Apple themselves don’t replace in their stores, opting instead to users an entirely new watch.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by tw04 »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #235
tw04 wrote: post #26

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Right, and an Oura would be usable for a decade because it has a rechargeable battery.

sure but the Oura does a bunch of unrelated stuff specific to health and also has to be charged twice a week? they're not even comparable products

I don’t understand what you don’t understand. The oura comparison is one they made and used “charging every day” as a reason to not use a rechargeable battery. If they took the oura hardware model and applied it to their voice recorder ring, you would be charging monthly if not longer.

TL;dr - There’s no reason to not have a rechargeable battery other than to create e-waste and “a revenue stream”.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by dangus »

dspillett wrote: post #543
embedding-shape wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, so the discussion isn't interesting to you because you think another thing will make the second thing irrelevant. But obviously discussing the second thing has value, regardless of your personal opinion, so why don't you just stay out of the topic instead of trying to change it to something else?

> so why don't you just stay out of the topic instead of trying to change it to something else? “Because this thread is currently higher up the page than the threads talking about what they want to talk about, so they'll get less attention” would be my guess.

Damn, you got me. How much money do I owe you in damages?
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