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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by recitedropper »

echelon wrote: post #327
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No LLM has ever been as good as people said it was. That doesn't mean this one won't be, but it does make it an unlikely bet based on past trends.

There are 8 Google news articles in the top 15 articles on the HN front page right now. Google being able to skip ahead of every other AI company is wild. They just sat back and watched, then decided it was time to body the competition. The DOJ really should break up Google [1]. They have too many incumbent advantages that were already abuse of monopoly power. [1] https://pluralpolicy.com/find-your-legislator/ - call…

Astroturfing used as evidence of domination. Public forums truly have come full circle.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by thomasahle »

emodendroket wrote: post #477
pclmulqdq wrote: post #466

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Yeah, it is often pointed out as a brilliance in game analysis if a GM makes a move that an engine says is bad and turns out to be good. However, it only happens in very specific positions.

Does that happen because the player understands some tendency of their opponent that will cause them to not play optimally? Or is it genuinely some flaw in the machine’s analysis?

It's only the later if it's a weak browser engine, and it's early enough in the game that the player had studied the position with a cloud engine.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by fromwilliam »

SXX wrote: post #443
SXX wrote: post #366

Static Pelican is boring. First attempt: Generate SVG animation of following: 1 - There is High fantasy mage tower with a top window a dome 2 - Green goblin come in front of tower with a torch 3 - Grumpy old mage with beard appear in a tower window in high purple hat 4 - Mage sends fireball that burns goblin and all screen is covered in fire. Camera view must be from behind of goblin back so we basically look at towe…

After few more attempts longer animation with a story from my gamedev inspired mind: https://codepen.io/Runway/pen/zxqzPyQ PS: but yeah thats attempt #20 or something.

This is honestly incredible

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by sharpshadow »

astrange wrote: post #557
observationist wrote: post #468

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Yes, we're absolutely holding Apple accountable for outsourcing jobs, degrading the US markets, using slave and child labor, laundering cobalt from illegal "artisanal" mines in the DRC, and whitewashing what they do by using corporate layering and shady deals to put themselves at sufficient degrees of separation from problematic labor and sources to do good PR, but not actually decoupling at all. I also hold American…

> laundering cobalt from illegal "artisanal" mines in the DRC They don't, all cobalt in Apple products is recycled. > and whitewashing what they do by using corporate layering and shady deals to put themselves at sufficient degrees of separation from problematic labor and sources to do good PR, but not actually decoupling at all. They don't, Apple audits their entire supply chain so it wouldn't hide anything if somet…

One can claim 100% recycled cobalt under the mass balance system even if recycled and non-recycled cobalt was mixed as long as the total amount used in production is less or equal to recycled cobalt purchased in the books. At least here[0] they claim their recycled cobalt references are under the mass balance system.

0. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/04/apple-will-use-100-pe...

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by recitedropper »

sosodev wrote: post #473
recitedropper wrote: post #438

Who wants to bet they benchmaxxed ARC-AGI-2? Nothing in their release implies they found some sort of "secret sauce" that justifies the jump. Maybe they are keeping that itself secret, but more likely they probably just have had humans generate an enormous number of examples, and then synthetically build on that. No benchmark is safe, when this much money is on the line.

Here's some insight from Jeff Dean and Noam Shazeer's interview with Dwarkesh Patel https://youtu.be/v0gjI__RyCY&t=7390 > When you think about divulging this information that has been helpful to your competitors, in retrospect is it like, "Yeah, we'd still do it," or would you be like, "Ah, we didn't realize how big a deal transformer was. We should have kept it indoors." How do you think about that? > Some things we…

I'm sure each of the frontier labs have some secret methods, especially in training the models and the engineering of optimizing inference. That said, I don't think them saying they'd keep a big breakthrough secret would be evidence in this case of a "secret sauce" on ARC-AGI-2.

If they had found something fundamentally new, I doubt they would've snuck it into Gemini 3. Probably would cook on it longer and release something truly mindblowing. Or, you know, just take over the world with their new omniscient ASI :)

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by bumling »

lairv wrote: post #293

Out of curiosity, I gave it the latest project euler problem published on 11/16/2025, very likely out of the training data Gemini thought for 5m10s before giving me a python snippet that produced the correct answer. The leaderboard says that the 3 fastest human to solve this problem took 14min, 20min and 1h14min respectively Even thought I expect this sort of problem to very much be in the distribution of what the mo…

I asked Grok to write a Python script to solve this and it did it in slightly under ten minutes, after one false start where I'd asked it using a mode that doesn't think deeply enough. Impressive.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by nyantaro1 »

SXX wrote: post #443
SXX wrote: post #366

Static Pelican is boring. First attempt: Generate SVG animation of following: 1 - There is High fantasy mage tower with a top window a dome 2 - Green goblin come in front of tower with a torch 3 - Grumpy old mage with beard appear in a tower window in high purple hat 4 - Mage sends fireball that burns goblin and all screen is covered in fire. Camera view must be from behind of goblin back so we basically look at towe…

After few more attempts longer animation with a story from my gamedev inspired mind: https://codepen.io/Runway/pen/zxqzPyQ PS: but yeah thats attempt #20 or something.

we are so cooked

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by taikahessu »

Boring. Tried to explore sexuality related topics, but Alphabet is stuck in some Christianity Dark Ages.

Edit: Okay, I admit I'm used to dealing with OpenAI models and it seems you have to be extra careful with wording with Gemini. Once you have right wording like "explore my own sexuality" and avoid certain words, you can get it going pretty interestingly.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by oezi »

Probably invested a couple of billion into this release (it is great as far as I can tell), but can't bring proper UI to AI Studio for long prompts and responses (e.g. it animates new text being generated even though you just return to the tab which was finished generating).
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