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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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ICE tracking apps put ICE agents in danger, and the same kind of app for, say, tracking Meta employees or “people who wear Team Blue T-shirts” or any other group would obviously be a danger as well. How on earth do people find this controversial..?

Is turnabout no longer fair play, then?

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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It’s unconstitutional to raid an entire apartment building and force everyone out as they search for potential “illegals” to take away without due process. We are far beyond a couple an individual cases, it’s become the norm. Stay at home orders for health reasons are constitutional. Also, in countries that had stricter rules far fewer people died. When bringing comparisons to a discussion… check if you’re right, and…

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Let's say there are "illegals" in Utah .. that seems a certainty.

It appears you are stating as fact that it's A-OK and constitutional to force every resident of Utah from their home in a search for rumored "illegals".

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I agree with you, but can we stop calling installing software on the hardware you own "sideloading"?

It's called "sideloading" because you're sneakily installing software without the manufacturer's consent. Remember it's never your device, you just have permission to use it.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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I don't see the problem. It was an app specifically developed to help people evade American law and attack people who work for the government, how is it a shock that they took it down?

Apple maps tells you when you are near a cop on the highway in order to evade the law.

Those should be removed too then. I don’t think they were nearly as effective as the ice block app was though. Every time I saw an alert in Waze there was nothing or it’s where they park an empty police car.

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You need to be careful, the word "incite" does not mean what you think it does here. Maybe the app enabled violence against law enforcement - but Waymo does that too by telling you where traffic cops are. Or Google Maps and Yellow Pages for documenting the location of police stations. Undercover officers, ICE or otherwise, aren't given any special exemptions to the law here.

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Which traffic cops disappear children into torture camps?

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Conversely, this and EU Chat Control are precisely why the powers that be will ensure it will happen. The importance of FOSS mobile OSes is greater than ever now.

Still waiting to see chatcontrol happen. Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t believe it will happen.

As an EU citizen, I never doubt the ability for the EU to do the wrong thing...

The current European Commision president: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zensursula

The previous president, Juncker, was the premier who made Luxembourg a taxhaven. Nowadays buying from Amazon in Europe you still get a purchase receipt from Amazon Luxembourg...

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

#589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s unconstitutional to raid an entire apartment building and force everyone out as they search for potential “illegals” to take away without due process. We are far beyond a couple an individual cases, it’s become the norm. Stay at home orders for health reasons are constitutional. Also, in countries that had stricter rules far fewer people died. When bringing comparisons to a discussion… check if you’re right, and…

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Just to be clear, you are cool with and believe it’s constitutional for an entire building of residents to be forced to leave and have their homes searched?

They need a warrant for each place of residence (each apartment), they did not have that.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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ICE puts people in danger and disregards their due process. When a group is performing unconstitutional activities they should be tracked and stopped where possible.

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But they do have a right to due process, which many aren’t getting. That is unconstitutional.

There are also people who are citizens or are allowed to be there but are taken away regardless (you know, without due process).

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