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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by sporkxrocket »

flyinglizard wrote: post #579
sporkxrocket wrote: post #577

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Very easy to verify that what you're saying is false: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Verify that what exactly is false? It literally says that: "The term is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as Israel's ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians"

Literally the first sentence:

> The Nakba (Arabic: النَّكْبَة, romanized: an-Nakba, lit. 'the catastrophe') is the Israeli ethnic cleansing[14] of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

sporkxrocket wrote: post #540
username332211 wrote: post #504

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This is an ultra simplistic take. Iran does not like the role the US has in propping up Israel, entirely rational and understandable. Israel may not be recognized by our government as a "sworn enemy" but it's done infinitely more damage to the US and US citizens than Iran has. The only reason they're not sanctioned is because one of the ways Israel attacks the US is through bribery (AIPAC) and blackmail (Epstein).

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by bichiliad »

simianparrot wrote: post #546
coldtea wrote: post #451

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> with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. That's the PR justification. The real one is "to hurt the countries and make them do as we say" and "because we can".

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This is extremely reductive. Just as OP doesn’t support Russia in its war against Ukraine, and just as many US citizens don’t support America’s actions abroad, there aren’t any countries that teach their kids to chant “death to America” for the fun of it. Not to mention the fact that there are options that aren’t “economic oppression” or “war.”

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by vorpalhex »

sporkxrocket wrote: post #540
username332211 wrote: post #504

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This is an ultra simplistic take. Iran does not like the role the US has in propping up Israel, entirely rational and understandable. Israel may not be recognized by our government as a "sworn enemy" but it's done infinitely more damage to the US and US citizens than Iran has. The only reason they're not sanctioned is because one of the ways Israel attacks the US is through bribery (AIPAC) and blackmail (Epstein).

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by guappa »

chabska wrote: post #221
adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

This is also applied to italian citizens individually if they say documented facts about what is happening in Palestine.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by guappa »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #578
tuveson wrote: post #452

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> But even in the US, no one I've ever had the option to vote for (and who had even a remote chance of winning) would ever consider lifting these sanctions. So I am similarly powerless to change this situation. Not saying Obama’s foreign policy was perfect, but he did do the Iran nuclear deal which lifted some sanctions, and started the process of normalizing relations with Cuba. Like so many other things, these were…

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If you have proof of iran having nuclear weapons, perhaps sell the scoop?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

mynegation wrote: post #458
lazide wrote: post #331

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Cite? Russia and Iran seem to not be giving too much of a shit. NK became a nuclear power under sanctions.

Main reason being that there are large and powerful countries that do not give a damn about sanctions.

Name one

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by k_roy »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #578
tuveson wrote: post #452

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> But even in the US, no one I've ever had the option to vote for (and who had even a remote chance of winning) would ever consider lifting these sanctions. So I am similarly powerless to change this situation. Not saying Obama’s foreign policy was perfect, but he did do the Iran nuclear deal which lifted some sanctions, and started the process of normalizing relations with Cuba. Like so many other things, these were…

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Except that's not what happened was it

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by sporkxrocket »

vorpalhex wrote: post #584
sporkxrocket wrote: post #540

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This is an ultra simplistic take. Iran does not like the role the US has in propping up Israel, entirely rational and understandable. Israel may not be recognized by our government as a "sworn enemy" but it's done infinitely more damage to the US and US citizens than Iran has. The only reason they're not sanctioned is because one of the ways Israel attacks the US is through bribery (AIPAC) and blackmail (Epstein).

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Israel literally killed 4 Americans two days ago.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

cess11 wrote: post #497
ajuc wrote: post #356

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When alcoholic husband beats his wife so they put him in prison and the wife starves - is it the fault of the people who put the husband in prison? Or the fault of the husband for beating his wife and the fault of the wife for staying in that relationship? I get it - it's hard. But you cannot expect the whole world to enable your alcoholic husband/militaristic dictator.

Not sure what your supposed analogy is referring to but I'm all for boycott and sanctions towards the US if that's what you mean.

in the analogy you would be the husband
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